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rights before the committee, which they are entitled to have. Both sides 

 are entitled to that. But it seems to me that it is asking a little too 

 much for them to want both the opening and the closing of the case. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. The gentleman who has the floor at the 

 present time had all day yesterday, part of the day before, and is going 

 on this morning enlightening us with the facts on his side. 



Senator MONEY. Yes; and he is making a very good speech, too. 



Mr. MILLER. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Schell did not occupy all day yes- 

 terday. When you were absent yesterday afternoon some labor people 

 from Pennsylvania spoke for part of the afternoon. 



Senator FOSTER. But we must draw these hearings to a close some 

 time. It seems to me we are getting about all the information there is 

 on this subject. I do not know that we have had very much repetition, 

 but we have had some. 



Senator MONEY. As far as that is concerned, I have made the sug- 

 gestion to the cotton-seed oil people, who are particularly my constit- 

 uents, that they might present their case 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. They are here now and are ready to go on 

 as soon as this gentleman closes. There are four of them who desire 

 to be heard. We wanted to give them the balance of to-day and all of 

 to-morrow, and then to allow the butter people to close on their side. 

 That was the suggestion of the chairman of the committee as he went 

 out. 



Senator MONEY. Do the butter people think it is any particular 

 advantage to have the closing? If so, it ought not to be allowed them. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. It has been generally conceded to them, I 

 think, by the opponents of the bill. These hearings, as I will state to 

 the Senator, have been rather irregular. 



Senator MONEY. I know they have; and I have been rather irregular 

 myself, because during the afternoon sessions I have been compelled to 

 be up in the Senate Chamber most of the time. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. If the gentlemen of the committee will permit 

 me, I will call attention to the statement of Mr. Grout, made at the 

 opening of the hearings, in which he says this : 



I simply want to say, gentlemen, that with this testimony the friends of the bill 

 submit their case and give the field to those who are opposed to the measure. 



Senator Hausbrough replied: 

 It is understood that Governor Hoard is present and desires to be heard. 



Whereupon Mr. Hoard spoke. And until the hearings had progressed 

 for several days there was no intimation that the butter men desired 

 to be heard any further. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Do you object to their closing the case? 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Not in the least. 



Senator MONEY. I have only been contending for what I consider 

 to be fair play. 



Senator HEITFELD. Before Mr. Schell proceeds, I would like to ask 

 the chairman a question. Are the cotton-seed oil people here, the par- 

 ties Mr. Culberson spoke of yesterday ? Did he not see you about them I 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Yes: he said he had so me constituents here. 

 I do not know whether they are from his State or not. 



Mr. JELKE. Will you permit me just one moment? Mr. Peters is 

 here from Texas, representing the oil-mill interests of that State. He 

 came here in obedience to a telegram from Senator Culberson, after 

 haying had an interview, as I understood, with Senator Proctor, it 

 being understood that they would not be heard later than Wednesday. 



