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want the same result. The mills and ranches, and dairies and cream- 

 eries, and packing houses that supply the oleomargarine factories do 

 not care. The fair-minded citizen can not object. So, let us have the 

 substitute bill not because we want it, or anyone wants it, but because 

 it a wise and, probably, a legitimate piece of legislation. 



Mr. MILLER. Mr. Schell, excuse me. Mr. Tompkins, of Charlotte, 

 N. C., is here this morning, and can not be here this afternoon, as he 

 leaves at 3. We are quite anxious that he should appear. Can you 

 give way to him? 



Mr. SCHELL. I will finish in five minutes. 



Mr. MILLER. All right. 



Mr. TOMPKINS. I am better satisfied to have Mr. Schell finish, because 

 I am convinced that he is doing good work. 



Senator HEITFELD. Let us have the present speaker conclude his 

 argument. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Yes; go on, Mr. Schell. 



Mr. SCHELL. I want to say that the only substantial difference 

 between the substitute bill and the existing law is that the manufac- 

 turer is compelled to put up his product in 1 and 2 pound packages, 

 imprinted, wrapped, and stamped at the factory, which can not be 

 broken until they go to the consumer. That, you will understand, does 

 what I have claimed. It puts fraud practically out of the question. 

 And the only point in that bill about which they have raised any ques- 

 tion is this sentence: "That any number of such original stamped 

 packages may be put up by the manufacturers in crates, boxes," etc. 

 They object to the word " original" as bringing in the "original 

 package." 



Now, for my part and I think I can speak for all on that point it 

 is not the intention to put that word in there for the purpose of making 

 the law different from what it is, or taking any undue advantage of 

 any "original package" decision, and we are willing, or I am willing 

 that that word may be changed so that it may not apparently designate 

 these packages as original packages, although the mere fact that the 

 word appears here does not make them original packages any more 

 than the law itself would make them original packages without that 

 word. 



I had intended to speak upon the Grout bill at length and show the 

 fraud upon the face of it, but I think it is so evident that I do not need 

 to touch upon it all. Besides, the attention of the committee has been 

 called to almost every feature of it. 



Another good reason against the Grout bill is that it totally fails to 

 do anything more than reduce the tax on oleomargarine If cents per 

 pound. If anyone wants to take advantage of defects and violate the 

 spirit and not the legal meaning of the statute I say "if," for I know 

 of no one in the business who would not try to obey the spirit and the 

 letter of any act of Congress. My clients, at least, are law-abiding 

 citizens, and would probably want to obtain the repeal of the statute by 

 its strict enforcement the best way to guarantee the repeal of any 

 unjust, unfair, iniquitous legislation. However, allow me to retire for 

 a moment from my capacity as attorney for a contending interest, from 

 my position as a witness for the integrity of a nation, and give my 

 opinion as a lawyer with some conceded ability on technical interpre- 

 tations, and say that this so-called Grout bill would no more stand the 

 technical test than a snow ball would keep its proportions in perdi- 

 tion. [Laughter.] Ben Butler must have had a bill of this kind in 

 view when he said he could drive a four-horse team through any stat 

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