310 OLEOMARGARINE. 



Mr. DOLAN. JSTo; I maintain that the candy manufacturers do the 

 same as the creamery and butter manufacturers. They color it for the 

 purpose of making it palatable, or because people prefer this pink 

 color to white. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Does the color in candy make it resemble any other 

 article so that the people can not tell it from another article, and does 

 it endanger the people being defrauded? 



Mr. DOLAN. I do not know that it does; but, although I have been 

 in the business for over four years, I do not know of anyone who ever 

 was defr aided through buying oleomargarine for creamery butter. If 

 there are such cases they are isolated ones. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Your experience has probably been limited to your 

 own dealings with the people, has it not? 



Mr. DOLAN. Well, that is a good experience; and I now travel around 

 among the people. I am on the road all of the time, and I get in 

 among the working people, and they are the people who are interested 

 here. I am not here in the interest of the oleomargarine manufactur- 

 ers or the creamery butter manufacturers, but in the interest of my 

 own people, for I know that this bill will be an injury to them if it is 

 passed. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Do you know that the highest priced butter in the 

 United States is absolutely as white as it can be made ? 



Mr. DOLAN. Do I know that the highest priced butter is absolutely 

 white, you say? 



Mr. KNIGHT. As white as it can be made? 



Mr. DOLAN. I will agree with you that it is as white as it can be 

 made. I have had some experience in that line. I used to own two 

 cows, and my wife used to make butter. I thought she was a cleanly 

 woman, but she could not make it white. 



Mr. KNIGHT. She could not? 



Mr. DOLAN. No not absolutely white. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. But these gentlemen this morning proved 

 that it is the dirt that makes it white. [Laughter.] 



Mr. DOLAN. Well, I do not know. There is one thing that I will tell 

 you : It is not absolutely white, but it is not the color that you get it 

 from the farmers. In my section I have known farmers to buy oleo- 

 margarine. What they did. it for I did not know. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. I believe that is all, Mr. Dolan. 



Mr. DOLAN. Thank you, sir. 



STATEMENT OF JOHN PIERCE, REPRESENTING THE AMALGA- 

 MATED ASSOCIATION OF IRON AND STEEL WORKERS. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Are you the president of the Amalgamated 

 Association of Iron and Steel Workers, Mr. Pierce? 



Mr. PIERCE. No; I am one of its trustees. On last Saturday we 

 had the regular quarterly meeting of our advisory board, and they 

 selected me to come down here and represent the association. As you 

 know, all of our people are workingmen, too. They all work in the 

 rolling mills. 



When my attention was first called to the Grout bill by newspaper 

 comment, after its presentation in the House of Kepresentatives, I had 

 no idea that such an infamous measure would ever receive serious con- 

 sideration, much less pass that body, as it has done. The interest of 

 the consumer seems not to have been considered at all, the sole idea 

 apparently being that the creameryman and dairyman should have a 



