342 OLEOMARGARINE. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Oh, no. 



Mr. SCHELL. Why, Mr. Chairman, on the color question I agree with 

 your view. I never saw butter that looked exactly like that particular 

 combination. But is the ordinary butter what might strictly be termed 

 yellow, after all? Is it not more of a golden color? Of course it is a 

 shade of yellow, but it is not 



Mr. PERSON. I have not spoken of these as colors. I have spoken 

 of them as shades. 



Senator HEITFELD. You can find butter here in the Center Market 

 that has a tint approaching that third deepest color that is, that would 

 be the color, but it is reddish. It is a reddish yellow, just the same. 

 It is the Elgin butter, I believe. 



Mr. KNIGKET. Senator, I want to say that in the butter trade we 

 have made a great many efforts to reproduce the color of butter in 

 some way so that a standard could be printed, and we find it impos- 

 sible to print anything that looks like the real butter color. The color 

 of butter is on a grease, and it appears that no printing ink, on paper 

 or anything of that kind, will look like the actual butter color. We 

 have tried that and we have failed. 



Senator HEITFELD. Then there are so many shades of color, even in 

 June and July; and different grasses make different colors. Take our 

 Western country, for instance. The blue grass gives color different 

 from that of butter from alfalfa. The color of butter from alfalfa, again, 

 is different from that of rye. In fact, the color of butter from rye is so 

 deep that it is rather objectionable. 



Mr. KNIGHT. You are something of a butter man, Senator, I see. 



Senator HEITFELD. Well, I have been in the dairy business all my 

 life; and I know all about it so far as the farm goes. We have even 

 wrapped it in all sorts of cloths when we could not get the butter cloth. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Now, is there anyone else desiring to be 

 heard this afternoon ? 



Mr. SCHELL. Allow me to say further on the color matter that my 

 chemist advises me that there are over 700 different kinds of named 

 colors as a result of the coal-tar product, and that there are thousands 

 of other colors and shades which have not been named. The color 

 question, then, is one without limit, and if they will not define their 

 butter color, how are we to know what it is? They say we are not to 

 color oleomargarine in imitation of butter. How can we tell what the 

 color is that we are not to imitate? There should be some standard. 

 They say, "You are using our color," -but they do not give us any 

 standard. 



Mr. ADAMS. Yellow is the standard. 



Mr. SCHELL. What yellow ? 



Mr. KNIGHT. Any shade of yellow. 



Mr. SCHELL. Then white is another shade of butter. We can not 

 color our oleomargarine white, or we will be accused of imitating butter. 



Mr. KNIGHT. No; we say yellow butter. 



Mr. SCHELL. What shade of yellow? 



Mr. KNIGHT. Any shade. 



Mr. SCHELL. Any shade? There are over 700 different shades of 

 yellow, and we can not have any, but you are entitled to all? 



Mr. KNIGHT. Oh, no. 



Mr. JELKE. If you will allow me to say one word on the subject of 

 color, I will say that I have been told the production of a color for use 

 in silks and other dress goods means a fortune to a chemist, and that 

 some of them spent their lives, in Germany and France, studying to 



