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and Labor Assembly, and of the other organizations which I represent, 

 for the courteous hearing you have given nie on this occasion and for 

 the patience with which you have borne with me. 



I thank you sincerely, gentlemen ; and I trust that it shall be our 

 most pleasant duty to tender this committee a sincere vote of thanks 

 for that protection of our interests which I feel confident they will 

 give us. 



The CHAIRMAN. There is very little time left. Is there anyone else 

 who wishes to be heard in that time? 



Mr. KNIGHT. How much is there ten minutes? 



Senator ALLEN. I was going to suggest, Mr. Chairman, that if all 

 these gentlemen desire to be heard, some one or two of us can remain 

 here and continue the hearing. 



The CHAIRMAN. During the session of the Senate? 



Senator ALLEN. Yes, sir. 



The CHAIRMAN. Is there anybody else ready to go on on this side of 

 the question ! 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Acting under the suggestion of previous days, 

 that the committee would adjourn at noon until 2.30 o'clock, it was 

 understood that Mr. Davis would go on at that time. He is not 

 present now. 



The CHAIRMAN. Mr Knight, perhaps those men of whom you spoke, 

 who are going away, can be heard now on the other side of this 

 question f 



Mr. KNIGHT. The gentlemen are here, but there is just one thing to 

 be considered, Senator. We do not want to break in or repudiate or 

 change in any way the arrangements which were made to permit us to 

 have to-morrow. 



The CHAIRMAN. We will not do that; but as nobody else seems to 

 want the time to-day 



Mr. SCHELL. As I understand, it is not arranged that they are to 

 have all of to-morrow. I do not think that has been the case. We do 

 not want to concede that on the record at all. 



The CHAIRMAN. I so understand it, unless there is something very 

 special which would require a change in the plan. That was the 

 announcement. You have had the floor to-day. 



Mr. SCHELL. As the question was raised yesterday, I think, it was 

 understood that these gentlemen were not to be allowed to really bring 

 in their presentation of their case at the close. In other words, they 

 are not to be allowed to wait until we have concluded, and then bring 

 in new arguments or new facts, or new alleged facts, without giving us 

 the right to have something to say in reply. 



Senator ALLEN. Is it not true that the whole matter at issue between 

 these two sides can be reduced to one or two questions'? 



Mr. SCHELL. To two questions, perhaps. 



Senator ALLEN. Now, why is there any necessity for going on with 

 greater elaboration ? 



Mr. SCHELL. I see no necessity at all. 



The CHAIRMAN. If you will act on that plan, we can simplify matters 

 considerably. 



Mr. SCHELL. The point is this, Mr. Chairman : The gentlemen who, 

 as we claim, or as I claim, have the burden of proof, have come in here 

 and arraigned us on certain charges, and say we should submit to cer- 

 tain things. We put in a plea of not guilty. They claim to present 

 their case, and say, "We close; 7 ' but they really present no case. It 

 is a general charge not even the statement of a case. 



