OLEOMARGARINE. 367 



Mr. KRACKE. That is the point. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. I think that is true. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. That is true. 



Mr. KRACKE. Take the case of delivering oleomargarine to boarding 

 houses. Boarding houses in New York are prohibited from using 

 colored oleomargarine or serving it to their boarders. But the point is 

 this that it is sold to them as butter by the preliminary process of the 

 agent coming there and selling it to them as creamery butter. 



Senator DOLLIVER. But the law of New Jersey seems to be very 

 nearly the same as the law of New York on the subject. 



Mr. KRACKE. I believe it is; but I am not speaking for New Jersey. 

 The point of my starting out in this way, Senators, is this simply to 

 bring to your minds the question of fraud. The question of fraud in 

 the whole business is what appeals to me most thoroughly and posi- 

 tively. It was said here by some of the friends of the bill that 75 per 

 cent of the oleomargarine sold is sold as and for butter. Now, I rather 

 disagree with them. From my experience in New York, and I have had 

 five years 7 experience there in enforcing the law, I rather disagree with 

 that proposition and that statement. Every ounce of it that is sold in 

 New York is sold as and for butter, without any question. 



To give you an illustration: We had reason to suspect a certain 

 grocery store of selling oleomargarine. I sent the inspectors there to 

 look the matter up, but could not find any of the material. There was 

 a renewed complaint. I went there myself with the inspectors, and in 

 looking the place over we found some butter on hand; and among the 

 empty tubs which [ looked over the middle hoop of one contained a 

 small corner of a revenue stamp, which indicated to me that the grocer 

 had been handling oleomargarine. Shortly after that a clerk who had 

 formerly been in this man's employ came to my office and told me that 

 the goods were kept upstairs in his living rooms; that this man kept 

 oleomargarine, but kept it upstairs in his living rooms, and only dealt 

 it out discreetly to certain customejs. He said that he would not dare 

 keep it in his store for fear of being detected by our inspectors. 



This former clerk said furthermore: 



The method is this : The man has a hoy there in the store. Next time you go there 

 you will see this boy walking in the place. As the men, ahout 10 or 11 o'clock in 

 the morning, get their orders ready and they are put in the wagon for delivery, this 

 boy will be walking up and down, watching the orders. He will have on a very 

 large coat. This coat is very heavily lined, and it is interlined and intersewed so 

 that it will permit a number of pound prints of oleomargarine to be placed in the 

 lining. The boy will go with the wagon, and when it gets to a certain house where 

 he wants to deliver oleomargarine with the order, whereas butter has been ordered, 

 he will take one print or two prints out of the lining of his coat pocket, put it in 

 the order, and take it in the house. 



That is an illustration of how they sell oleomargarine for butter, gen- 

 tlemen. 



Mr. MILLER. What do they do on hot days? 



Mr. KRACKE. This was not a hot day. [Laughter.] 



Mr. MILLER. How many pounds did this boy carry at once? 



Mr. KRACKE. He carried 28 pounds. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Now, do you mean to tell the committee that the 

 person to whom that oleomargarine was delivered was deceived in the 

 purchase? 



Mr. KRACKE. Unquestionably. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Do you know that, or is it simply a question of 

 opinion ? 



