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much goes into Illinois'? How much goes iiito the Southern States? 

 Now, the butter of all these States which is displaced by oleomargarine 

 comes into competition with the New York product just exactly the 

 same as if the oleomargarine itself were sold in New York. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Oh, no. 



Mr. DILLON. I say that it is the fact, because there is more Western 

 butter consumed in New York City than there is State butter. 



Mr. JELKE. Then the only interest that you have in this question is 

 the protection of the New York dairy interest? 



Mr. DILLON. The only interest that I have is to protect butter from 

 a dishonest competition ; and it is the interest of the dairymen through- 

 out this whole country and throughout every State in the Union. I do 

 not confine myself to New York State at all. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Do you think the price of butter would be any 

 higher if oleomargarine were out of the way? 



Mr. DILLON. I know that there are facilities in this country for making 

 all the butter at a reasonable price that is required, and that question 

 does not cut any figure here, anyway, to my mind. I believe, and I 

 know from my familiarity with the farming and dairy sections of this 

 country, that we could make double the amount of butter that is made 

 here to day. But that is not what I am arguing about. I want to con- 

 fine myself right to that one point. I do not want to have you make 

 your inferior product to imitate mine and sell it as mine. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. But you have no objection to my selling it for 

 what it is? 



Mr. DILLON. Not at all; not at all. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. That is the way three-quarters of it is sold. 



Mr. EOYCE. Well, we are after the other quarter. Mr. Chairman, if 

 there is any more time now I would just like to occupy two or three 

 minutes. I will not be much longer than that. I have not much to say, 

 in fact I believe there is not much to be said on this question, anyway. 



STATEMENT OF C. H. ROYCE, ESQ., OF NEW YORK. 



Mr. EOYOE. My name, Mr. Chairman, is C. H. Eoyce. I believe I 

 am a representative farmer. I was brought up within a few miles of 

 this gentleman here [Mr. Dillon]. We went to school together, and 

 while I am a farmer now, he is an editor, and that is the only respect 

 in which we differ. 



I am engaged in making a fancy grade of butter ; a butter that sells 

 to our customers for over half a dollar a pound net to us. And I want 

 to say to you right here and now that I believe that the manufacture 

 and sale of oleomargarine as butter interferes with the sale of our grade 

 of butter at 55 cents a pound. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Then it is a good thing. [Laughter.] 



Mr. EOYCE. That may appeal to you, sir; but there are plenty of 

 men in this country who are perfectly willing to lay down that amount, 

 or more, for butter which they consider to be worth the price. 



Now, I want to say one thing that I believe is true, and in which I 

 think you will agree with me, that we have the better right to use the 

 yellow color for our butter than have the oleomargarine manufacturers, 

 because if the Almighty had any designs or plans in reference to this 

 thing at all, it was that a cow, given June grass, would make a certain 

 color of butter, and that that should be her trade-mark or copyright 

 forever. 



