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appeared before you, you will find a long string of prosecutions behind 

 almost every one of them. I do not say every one. 



Mr. MILLER. I dispute that, Mr. Knight. 



Mr. KNIGHT. I will except Armour & Co. and Swift & Go. 



Mr. JELKE. Find one against us, Mr. Knight. 



Mr. KNIGHT. I will find an offer of $7,500 to compromise a case. 



Mr. JELKE. Not one dollar. 



Senator HANSBROUGH. Proceed in order, gentlemen. 



Mr. KNIGHT. I have made the statement here that Braun & Fitts, 

 of which Mr. Jelke is a partner, offered to settle a case where one 

 Kouey and two other men had shipped something like $140,000 worth 

 of oleomargarine, with the stamps scratched off, as butter into the 

 various States, one of whom was detected; and you can not deny 

 that you came to the commissioner's office and that you and Mr. Dady 

 were there and that you looked out for bail for these people. 



Mr. JELKE. That is right. 



Mr. KNIGHT. You were there and you looked out for bail for them, 

 and Mr. Clark J. Tisdell, assistant United States attorney for the 

 northern district of Illinois, informed me that in those cases Brauu & 

 Fitts had offered $7,500 compromise. That is my information. 



Mr. JELKE. Your information is not correct, Mr. Knight. 



Mr. KNIGHT. I want to say further that in the case of a concern wiiose 

 attorney appeared here last night, a new concern in the city of Wash- 

 ington, the president of that company has three indictments hanging 

 over him in this District of Columbia to day, which have been there 

 for three or four years, for scratching stamps from oleomargarine. 

 They are in the Federal courts, but have never been tried. His brother 

 was sent to jail for six months, and it was only the slip of 4;he United 

 States attorney that this man was not included in that indictment. 

 The attorney himself said he should have been included. But those 

 indictments you will find pending, and I think you will find that he is 

 under bond, if you go down to the district attorney's office. I am 

 only speaking of those things to show you the character of a great 

 many of these people and their business. There are a great many 

 things I would like to present, but here I think is one of the most 

 important. A gentleman named McNamee, I believe 



Mr. McNAMEE. At your service, sir. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Coming from the city of Columbus, Ohio, where the 

 Capital City Dairy Company is located, brings you a lot of resolutions. 

 On sifting them down, I believe you will find there are 28 labor organi- 

 zations which have passed resolutions against the Grout bill. I received 

 from Cleveland, Ohio, a paper containing a report of a meeting of one 

 of those organizations, where this matter was brought up by Mr. 

 McNamee. it appears, I believe, that Mr. McNamee is an organizer of 

 labor organizations. He presented this case, and from my understand- 

 ing and my information from Cleveland I may be mistaken; I am 

 giving this second hand it was stated before them that two big cor- 

 porations, Swift and Armour, in the city of Chicago, were making an 

 effort to get a law which would crush the Ohio companies out of exist- 

 ence. The account of the proceedings of that meeting says: 



"Moved that the Cleveland Federation of Labor do not interfere 

 between two capitalistic corporations." I have the proceedings and I 

 expected to produce them here. But, Senator Hansbrough, you are 

 pretty well acquainted with union labor. You are a newspaper man. 

 I am a union printer, and was brought tip at the case. I belonged to 

 the typographical union. I know it is not the policy of labor unions to 



