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his butter uncolored. He gets yellow butter that is as yellow as any 

 butter that you have ever seen which has absolutely no artificial col- 

 oring matter in it. That is one grade that he gets. Now, you can not 

 make him make that butter white. On the other hand, it is within the 

 province and jurisdiction of the oleomargarine manufacturer to make 

 his product of one color the year round. 



Senator MONEY. You do not object to the oleomargarine manufac- 

 turer coloring his product red, then, when he sends it down to the 

 West Indies ? 



Mr. KNIGHT. No; he can color it red, just like currant jelly, and it 

 can be put on bread just as people use currant jelly on their bread. 

 We will not object to that at all. 



Senator MONEY. You only object to it when it is colored in competi- 

 tion with your product. 



Mr. KNIGHT. That is it exactly. 



Senator MONEY. In other words, you want something done by the 

 United States Government which will put money in your pockets at 

 the expense of some other person ? 



Mr. KNIGHT. No j we do not. But we want our pockets locked up 

 against the plunder of other people. 



Senator MONEY. Nobody is taking anything out of your pockets. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Oh, no ! 



Senator MONEY. Now, here is another thing: Suppose I were to 

 introduce a bill, let us say, placing a tax upon butter of 20 cents a 

 pound. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Yes. 



Senator MONEY. And suppose that bill forbade the coloring of it. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Yes. 



Senator MONEY. And suppose I taxed oleomargarine 10 cents a 

 pound, as you propose to do in this bill. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Yes. 



Senator MONEY. In other words, suppose I proposed to crush you 

 both out of business in order that the people might be compelled to 

 use a product of cotton-seed oil. What would you think of that? 



Mr. KNIGHT. I think it would not pass. (Laughter.) 



Senator MONEY. I am not talking about whether it would pass or 

 not. I do not want your opinion about that. I have my own opinion 

 on that question. But what about the morality of it, and the consti- 

 tutionality of it, and the justice of ilj? 



Mr. KNIGHT. But, Senator, you can not claim that either of those 

 products are imitating your product. 



Senator MONEY. That makes no difference. 



Mr. KNIGHT. That is our whole claim here. The best part of our 

 whole claim is that this other product is a fraudulent imitation of ours, 

 and that oleomargarine is being used to displace our product illegiti- 

 mately and fraudulently. 



Senator MONEY. Does not the first provision of the act sufficiently 

 provide against that? Now, as I understand it excuse me for arguing 

 with you. 



Mr. KNIGHT. That is all right ; I am very glad to have you. 



Senator MONEY. I am trying to get at the facts of this matter. I 

 have only been here during a part of the hearings, because I have had 

 to be in other places. But in the first place, it seems to be conceded 

 that the manufacturer himself does not deceive anybody. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Oh, no ! 



Senator MONEY. He sells his product as oleomargarine ; he never 

 pretends to sell it as butter. Is that so 1 



