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food and it is within the province of this committee to determine that 

 fact and can be sold for a less price than a higher valued product, 

 I believe every man has got a right to buy it if he wants to. 



Eepresentative LAMB. Mr. McCoy, are there not three classes, so to 

 speak, advocating the passage of this bill first, the dairy; second, the 

 small farmer throughout all the rural districts of this country; and 

 third, the man who sells this article, the butter merchants in all the 

 towns? From the hearings at which I have been present and the 

 observations that I have made upon both sides, I have been convinced 

 that those three factors enter into the application here for the passage 

 of this bill the dairyman, the small farmer (and the large farmer, so 

 far as that is concerned, the butter maker), and the man who sells the 

 butter in the town. I gather that from observations in my own dis- 

 trict and from telegrams received this morning. I have received half 

 a dozen or more telegrams this morning from men who sell this butter 

 to the working men and the laboring people. Now, if any protests come 

 from the consumer, it seems to me they would reach us through the 

 man who sells the butter to the consumer. 



Representative ALLEN. I will ask the gentleman from Virginia, 

 right there, if his district ships any beef cattle or sells any beef cattle 

 on the market? 



Eepresentative LAMB. A good many people in my district fatten 

 beef cattle and sell them. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. And ship them to the market and sell them? 



Eepresentative LAMB. And ship them to the market. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. Do you know the amount of the exportation? 



Eepresentative LAMB. No; but it is nothing in comparison with 

 your district, for this reason : My district wa& a storm center of war, 

 and it never has recovered from it, while along the rivers, the James 

 Eiver, etc., there are numbers of men engaged in the cattle industry. 

 They not only raise them, but they buy a great many steers in the fall 

 to fatten. They feed their corn and hay to them in the fall and winter, 

 and turn them on the grass in the spring. Some of the best people in 

 Eichmond buy those cattle raised in my district. 



The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Lamb, you say there are three elements. Now, 

 after all, are not the man who milks the cow, who produces the milk, 

 the dairyman who makes the butter, and the agent who sells it for them 

 in the city, all one interest, and not three interests? 



Eepresentative LAMB. I did not say they were separate. As I say, 

 they are three factors. 



The CHAIRMAN. Three factors of one interest? 



Eepresentative LAMB. Yes. 



The CHAIRMAN. Just like the clerks and the teamsters 



Eepresentative LAMB. There is a community of interest, yes, sir. 



The CHAIRMAN. It is one interest; without any element of it, any 

 one element, there would be no interest. 



Eepresentative STOKES. I would like to ask the gentleman one ques- 

 tion myself, growing out of his remark. 



Representative LAMB. I do not know that I am on the stand. I am 

 getting information here. This is the first time I have not had an 

 opportunity to hear the other side. However, go on. 



Eepresentative STOKES. I thought the gentleman was giving us a 

 little testimony a while ago, from his personal knowledge. That is the 

 reason I ask. 



^Representative LAMB. Yes; I will hear you on that point. 



Representative STOKES. The question I wanted to ask you was this: 

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