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Report, and is supposed to be one of the leading men in the dairy inter- 

 est; so 1 would judge that what he gave us was about correct. 



Before closing, I would like to quote here from the New York Produce 

 Review and American Creamery, but I will simply give you the substance 

 of their article. In speaking of the output of butter for the last year 

 and the prospect for the coming year, they say that the increase would 

 be from 10 to 20 per cent, and that the industry is flourishing and pros- 

 perous. Yet they come before Congress and would make you believe 

 that the industry needs protection. 



Kepresentative ALLEN. Give that quotation to the reporter, in con- 

 nection with your remarks. 



Mr. MILLER. Very well; I will do so. I thank you, gentlemen. 



Kepresentative BAKER. How large a percentage of your production 

 of oleomargarine or butterine is uncolored? 



Mr. MILLER. Uncolored f We make practically no uncolored but- 

 terine at all. There is no demand for it. 



Kepresentative BAKER. It is sold to some extent? 



Mr. MILLER. Very little. I do not suppose we make 2,000 pounds of 

 uncolored butterine a week. When the prohibitive laws went into effect 

 in Missouri and Iowa and a number of other States we tried to do some 

 uncolored butterine business, but we could not sell the product at all. 



Kepresentative BAKER. I hold in my hand several bills not from 

 your firm, but from a Chicago firm for uncolored butterine sold to the 

 retailers. 



Mr. MILLER. We are doing practically nothing in uncolored butterine. 



Kepresentative BAKER. Another question, if you please. You speak 

 of cotton-seed oil as being how large a percentage of butteriue? How 

 much do you use in your establishment! 



Mr. MILLER. It varies at different seasons of the year. In the 

 winter time we use a larger per cent than we do in the summer time. 



Kepresentative BAKER. I suppose so ; but can you not tell us, roughly I 



Mr. MILLER. It will range, I suppose, from 18 to 25 per cent. 



Kepresentative BAKER. Oh, that is not in accord with the informa- 

 tion we have. 



Mr. MILLER. I am only speaking about our own factory. I know 

 nothing about what the others do. I know what we use. 



Kepresentative BAKER. How large an amount of milk and cream do 

 you use? 



Mr. MILLER. That will vary. The volume of milk, cream, and salt 

 will be somewhere about 20 per cent. 



Kepresentative BAKER. The reports made from the Internal-Revenue 

 Bureau the other day established the fact that the percentage of milk 

 and cream as reported, not from your establishment, but altogether, 

 was very much larger than of cotton-seed oil. In fact, if I am not 

 mistaken, the cotton seed oil was only about 5 per cent, and the milk 

 and cream some 16 or 17 of the entire composition. 



Kepresentative WILLIAMS. No; you made a mistake there. You 

 were misled by the form of the report, to some extent. I understand 

 that what they call butter oil 



Kepresentative BAKER. That makes about 10 or 11 per cent. 



Kepresentative WILLIAMS. That makes about 8 per cent and a frac- 

 tion 42 of cotton- seed oil, and 4 of what they call butter oil. 



Kepresentative BAKER. In other words, it makes about one-half of 

 the amount of milk and cream used that is to say, it is a very small 

 percentage of the aggregate. 



Kepresentative WILLIAMS. I was astonished, like you, to notice that 

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