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that value varies at different times of the year sometimes there is a 

 difference of 3 cents, sometimes more, and sometimes not so much 

 but say to-day oleo oil is worth 9 cents and common tallow is worth 5 

 cents, and if we could not use this caul fat in the manufacture of but- 

 terine it would go into tallow and hava no greater value than tallow. 

 The same is true of the lard of the hog. We only use the leaf lard in 

 the manufacture of butterine. Now, if we could not use it in butterine 

 it would be sold as ordinary lard, and there a difference of about 2 

 cents a pound in the two articles. 



Representative COONEY. Have you any figures on that subject, in 

 regard to cattle, which you could leave here ? 



Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir; I can do that. 



Kepresentative COONEY. You say the cattle raiser makes $2 or $3 a 

 head which he would not make if this bill were passed? 



Mr. MILLER. I might supplement my remarks by saying that if there 

 were no demand for this neutral lard and oleo oil in the manufacture of 

 butterine it would depreciate the value of his stock. 



Kepresentative COONEY. How much ? 



Mr. MILLER. Well, it will vary at different times in the year. We 

 figure about 20 cents per hog and about $2 per head of steer. 



Eepresentative COONEY. Now, who gets that $2 per head! 



Mr. MILLER. Who gets it now? 



Eepresentative COONEY. Yes; who gets it now? 



Mr. MILLER. The cattle raiser. 



Eepresentative COONEY. How do you make that out? 



Mr. MILLER. Why doesn't he get it? 



Eepresentative COONEY. Well, he sells his cattle to those who buy 

 cattle in the market, and it is when they are slaughtered that the fat is 

 purchased by the oleomargarine men. Do they divide any of this profit 

 among them? 



Mr. MILLER. It is just this way. If this law went into effect 



Eepresentative COONEY. Does the farmer who raises the steer or sells 

 the Steer upon the market get all of this difference? 



Mr. MILLER. He is getting it now; yes, sir; and if the law went into 

 effect he would not get it thereafter. He would accept $2 a head less 

 for each steer. 



Eepreseutative COONEY. That is just what I would like to know, Mr. 

 Miller. If you have any proof of that fact, that the farmer who raises 

 the steer and sells it upon the market gets the two or three extra dol- 

 lars himself, I would be very glad to have it. I can see how the value 

 of the steer may be enhanced; but does he get all this enhanced value? 



Mr. MILLER. Ke does. 



Eepresentacive COONEY. That is what I wanted to know. 



Eepresentative WILLIAMS. That would be a matter of bargaining 

 and huckstering in the market, would it not? 



Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir. 



Eepresentative WILLIAMS. Of course the farmer and the jobber the 

 men who bought the stock to sell again would each be trying to get 

 the most they could out of it? 



Mr. MILLER. That is right. 



Eepresentative WILLIAMS. It would depend upon the individual sales 

 as to who got it and who did not. 



Eepresentative BAKER. Mr. Miller, does the firm that you represent 

 the Armour Packing Company manufacture a substitute for lard com- 

 monly known as "cottolene?" 



Mr. MILLER. No, sir. 



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