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would require it not to be stamped; but the dealer, in order to comply 

 with the regulation, would stamp it and turn down the corners in the 

 manner you have mentioned. 



Eepresentative WILLIAMS. Let me ask you a question. Doing that 

 was a violation of the law, was it not? 



Mr. LA VERY. Well, strictly speaking, I should say it was; yes. 



Kepresentative WILLIAMS. Is there anything in the Grout bill that 

 would prevent that violation of law I 



Mr. LAVERY. No, sir. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. What is your purpose or reason for not 

 wrapping all these packages with this branded paper? Why do you 

 wrap some with that and some without? Please explain that to the 

 committee. 



Mr. LAVERY. We have some trade which does not care for the printed 

 wrappers, for reasons of its own ; of course we are in business to give 

 the people what they want, as long as we can do so consistently; and 

 we do not refuse to fill their orders for plain-paper prints. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. You sell to the jobbers, do you? 



Mr. LAVERY. Yes, sir; we sell to the jobbers and retail dealers. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. And you sell to retail dealers also? 



Mr. LAVERY. Yes, sir. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. About what proportion of your output is put 

 up in the wrappers of this kind, and what in the other packages? 



Mr. LAVERY. I would say that about 60 per cent of our product goes 

 on the market in rolls and prints, and of that 60 per cent I would say 

 50 per cent goes out in this style of package, wrapped in branded 

 paper. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. And the other 10 per cent, say, goes out in 

 the other shape? 



Mr. LAVERY. In cloth wrappers, or occasionally a plain paper 

 wrapper. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. Now, you supply those wrappers yourselves, 

 do you? 



Mr. LAVERY. Oh, yes; yes, sir. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. Do you use any ordinary brown wrapping 

 paper for that purpose? 



Mr. LAVERY. No, sir; we do not. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. You do not use any of that? 



Mr. LAVERY. We do not. 



Eepresentative ALLEN. Do you stamp each one of those papers that 

 you use? 



Mr. LAVERY. Only in this manner. [Exhibiting wrappers.] 



Eepresentative BAILEY. As to these original packages, where you 

 put them out without putting this brand on them, the law provides that 

 the retail dealer, when he sells the separate packages, shall re wrap 

 them, and stamp "Oleomargarine" on them; does it not? 



Mr. LAVERY. Yes, sir: for which purpose we furnish to all retail 

 trade, free of charge, a rubber stamp, made strictly in accordance with 

 the internal-revenue regulations. 



Eepresentative BAILEY. That is all. 



Mr. LAVERY. Permit us to ask, gentlemen, would it be possible to 

 sell to a consumer who can read the English language, one of these 

 packages for butter? 



There have recently appeared, in certain newspapers, editorials and 

 interviews regarding the purity of oleomargarine. Some people through 

 ignorance, or with a desire to deceive, have made the statement that 

 all kinds of fats, with no regard to their condition, are used in its man* 



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