OLEOMARGARINE. 839 



At the conclusion of Judge Springer's argument, as shown on pages 

 and 115, the following colloquy occurred: 



Mr. SPRINGER. If any gentleman desires to ask questions, I will be very glad to 

 answer as I may be able. 



Mr. KNIGHT. You have not stated what the objections of the live-stock growers are 

 to the bill. 



Mr. SPRINGER. Those were stated 



Mr. KNIGHT. In the resolution? 



Mr. SPRINGER. In the memorial which will be printed. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. It will be printed. 



Mr. SPRINGER. I read a portion of it. I have asked the committee to embody it at 

 length, but I will briefly state the objections. They object to it because it deprives 

 them of a market for one of their products. In other words, the product of beef 

 known as caul fat, which amounts in the average beef to about 58 pounds per steer, 

 is now or may be manufactured into oleo oil, and if the whole product were so manu- 

 factured there would be a large amount in fact, nearly all of it used for that pur- 

 pose, thus increasing the value of the caul fat in the steer to the amount of the differ- 

 ence between oleo oil and tallow. 



Mr. HOARD. Does that include kidney fat? 



Mr. SPRINGER. It includes all that is known as caul fat I am not an expert as to 

 the various fats. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Your objection, then, is not so much to what it will do to the live- 

 stock industry as to what it will deprive the live-stock industry of some tune in the 

 future? 



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Mr. GROUT. Are you able to state the number of pounds of oleo oil that was used 

 in the production of oleomargarine last year? 



Mr. SPRINGER. Yes, sn\ 



Mr. GROUT. Will you give it? 



Mr. FLANDERS. He will publish that statement. 



Mr. KNIGHT. It is 24,400,000 pounds. 



Mr. SPRINGER. The table gives the ' ' quantities and kinds of ingredients used in the 

 production of oleomargarine in the United State's for the fiscal year ending June 30, 

 1899; also the percentage each different ingredient bears to the whole quantity." 

 Neutral lard, 31,000,000 pounds; oleo oil, 24,000,000 pounds; cotton-seed oil, 4,357,000 

 pounds. 



Mr. GROUT. What is the amount we exported? 



Mr. SPRINGER. We exported 142,000,000 pounds of oleo oil, I think. That is not 

 taken into consideration in the amount that was used in this country. 



Mr. KNIGHT. But in the resolution of the live-stock association is it not stated that 

 the passage of the Grout bill would mean a damage or loss in value of $3 or $4 a head 

 per cattle? 



Mr. SPRINGER. Yes, sir; it is so stated, I think. 



Mr. KNIGHT. How do you figure that, please? 



Senator HEITFELD. Was it not $2 in the statement made here? 



Mr. KNIGHT. From $2 to $4 in some statements. 



Mr. SPRINGER. They say in their memorial: 



"In oleomargarine a very large proportion of the consumers of this country, espe- 

 cially the working classes, have a wholesome, nutritious, and satisfactory article of 

 diet/ which before its advent they wore obliged, owing to the high price of butter 

 and their limited means, to go without. 



' ' The ' butter fat ' of an average beef animal, for the purpose of making oleomar- 

 garine, is worth from $3 to |4 per head more than it was before the advent of oleo- 

 margarine, when the same had to be used for tallow, which increased value of the 

 beef steer has been added to the market value of the animal, and consequently to the 

 profit of the producer. 



"To legislate this article of commerce out of existence, as the passage of this law 

 would surely do, would compel slaughterers to use this fat for tallow, and depreciate 

 the market value of the beef cattle of this country $3 to $4 per head, which would 

 entail a loss on the producers of this country of millions of dollars." 



Mr. KNIGHT. The amount of oleo oil used was 24,000,000 pounds? 



Mr. SPRINGER. Yes, sir. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Valued last year at about $2,000,000? 



Mr. SPRINGER, Yes, sir. 



Mr. KNIGHT. There were 5,000,000 head of cattle slaughtered in this country last 

 year. 



