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to make one length, and two men can lay one hundi'ed and fifty 

 feet or more a day, at a cost of three dollars. One of these pipes 

 laid twenty-five years ago is now a solid stone. 



Mr. Philbrick inquired whether Mr. Ware's vegetable garden was 

 well drained. 



Mr. Ware replied that it was not drained artificially, hut the soil 

 was of such a character as not to require it. 



Marshall P. Wilder said that he had been extremely interested 

 in what Mr. Ware had said, and spoke of the method of irrigation 

 in use at Salt Lake City by open channels, into which the water is 

 admitted, or from which it is stopped, by a shingle. The effect of 

 water on the surface is different from that of water under the sur- 

 face. Air and water are the two great promoters of vegetation. 

 The grease which accumulates from sewage is an absolute injury to 

 vegetation . 



C. M. Atkinson was doubtful of the advantages, for drainage, 

 of the pipe described by Mr. Ware, porosity and joints being 

 needed in drain pipe, but it would make an excellent conductor. 

 He had put down five hundred miles of drain pipes, and this winter 

 had a piece of retentive soil to drain, in which he dug trenches and 

 laid board drains in the form of the letter A, with a board bottom. 

 When the boards have rotted they will leave the drain perfect, 

 unless tree roots fill it. He thought that Mr. Ware had no right to 

 expect his sewage to benefit his vegetable garden, for water will 

 run down, and beheved it would produce a much better effect on 

 the grass. 



Mr. Ware said that the pipe which he described was not intended 

 for drainage, but for conducting water for irrigation— from a pond, 

 for instance. It might be made to answer for drainage, but would 

 not be as good as ordinary drain tile. 



John B. Moore said that irrigation was very important where a 

 proper supply of water could be obtained. He had studied this 

 subject carefully, and if there was anything that he was proud of, 

 it was his success in irrigation and drainage. He was not surprised 

 at Mr. Ware's failure ; the water would not go ten feet from the 

 outlet before soaking into the ground. He thought it would be 

 better to apply sewage on the surface, but if it will not make 

 vegetables grow how will it make grass? Tiie natural way of 

 watering is by rain, and no one has yet improved on it. He had 

 used water for artificial irrigation foi- two or three years, and by 



