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6737. 1 bou the** are estimate. You do out know 

 that Inu hor- went actually n. ployed . n thut \>ui 

 iiculur bi- \os, two horses wcie 



actually employ, . I oil that, but lli< y cic hoi M - ! 

 tug to ilu- . were not |i;iul 



for ut the rau- of 10. a day -ed to the 



farmer, ami In- bud got .. m. luu M did i. 



pay IDs. a duy U> anybody lor tli. ;.-. ul iliouc .' 

 on thoao day* 



&7Jb. l)u 'you attribute all)' pan <>l the bcm-iit i.i 

 cultivatioii ..ii.- yi-ar to the 4 year or to .. 



.<>iu> lor wheat 1 d<) 



my Iw-nelit for llif crop following 



I in- i- !...i- alter clear fallow, MJ thut you 



havu two year.-.' cultivation and two yours.' rent and 



rate* and so on for one crop. 



5731). /'/ . Itvutjlti* : Are these actual figures oacor- 

 .1 from accounts or estimates or what is their 

 Hi. . ul tivut ions :- 



57-10. The cultivations and the prices? On all 

 thane farm* 1 make annual stock-taking valuations a- 

 ut the 1st Juno. Naturally some are made ut ihr end 

 I \luy-some the last two weeks in May and some 

 tint first two weeks in June. Those are the lime- ni\ 

 ..Lliulaiii.n- we:,- taken, and the prices are of the cal- 

 culated ijuanlity of work two horses and a man or 

 thii-e horses and two men, as the case may be, will <!< 

 on that particular farm in a statutory day. 



5711. That is to say both the timing of the variou- 

 o,>eratioiis and of the financial cost are estimates? 



J Are they based upon records made at the 

 timer The number of times are. but the uctual time 

 occupied is based on the average on those farms. 



f.7i:i. On the usual practice of the district!- 1 

 would not say the usual practice of the district. Imt 

 mi the experience of the farmer and myself as to what 

 i- .Line in a day on those particular farms. 



1. You charge for horses 10s. a day I think you 

 said? Yes. 



5745. How do you get at that how many days' 

 nork do you calculate a horse does in the year? 1 am 

 assuming that he does six days a week, which of 

 course he does not do. 



5746. Your horse cost is 10s. a day on the assump- 

 tion that the horse works on 313 days in the year? 

 Yes, I think it is 313 or is it 312? 



~>7I7. How do you get at that cost? That makes a 

 total for every horse of about 166 for the year? I 

 have taken depreciation on the horse; I do not know 

 n bother I ought to have done that or not. 



'iat have you allowed for that? I have 

 allowed 20 per cent, depreciation. 



5749. Five years' life? Yes, whether I am tighter 

 not I do not know. I know we cannot in this di-.tru-t 

 hire a horse for 10s. a day, but whether that bears 

 upon the subject I do not know. 



6760. It hardly bears upon it, unless the trans- 

 action has actually been a hiring:' I do not think it 

 does. The average price for hiring is 12s. (id. in that 

 district. 



1 Do you think that your rate for each horse 

 day is probably excessive? I do not think so. You 



have horses at the moment up at a fabulous 



. rsonally I cannot see it is going to 

 stay, and, therefore, ihe depreciation of '20 per cent. 

 I consider reasonable. We are giving 120 and 130 

 guineas for anything like a decent horse now. If the 



- are going to stay there. 'JO per rent, is of course 

 lib a dfpnv-intinn to put, but we have got prices 



up above what I think tho average man considers is 

 fair. 



I do not think I need pie-, \,,u on that 

 al ntlbject. if you tell \is th.it tin day is 



m tho cost of keeping a horse?- It is not; 

 it in including depreciation 



If I nrn right it. ing (hat your rate 



the other hand it would I.e a very sanguine 



.ito to ay yon could work a horse on :JI2 days in 



that i- impossible. 



1 what do you base your price for dung that 

 .avo charged in one ( ,r inn nf voiir account It 



il five ill 



|xm the price that wo ordin- 

 arily 8<-t in \alnaiioii.. for dung This dune would 

 tell in the market at 7- 'id i.n the farm, but in a 

 tenant right valuation a farmer doe not get that 



J755. Does your 5t>. (Jd include, the carting uud 



ios. 



then then lilllc put oil the dung 



v.ii ,i very grout dual. 



:'. as it would be valued from 

 a leaving io an entering tenant r 



\\lnu rate of wagon have ym based your 

 ip.ui: 1 have based them on the rate of 

 a week. 



575U. for what length of week? For a six day 

 -i. ui. l for a carter. 



5700. What number of hours;'- For actually work- 

 ing null the h:'i.-i - in tin- iiold u 7 hours day. 



o701. is thut for i>i\ days, ul 7 noun.;'- Six days at 

 7 hour.s. 



J7U2. Your Tablet, do nut seem to lake into account 

 anything lor preceding and .succeeding crops in either 



I 01 example, it 1 take y ou to 'la bio. I tha 

 hcii wheat follows mangolds on a part of the 

 ueld ul all cvciii "> 



I lax. win charged anything for the residual 

 value of the cultivation-, and the manuring: .No. 



that leally I- mil a complete account of the 

 ut producing th 's win-air No, ii i.s not. 

 r>7tj.">. The mangold crop would leave something:-' 



He ordinary farmer under his agreement- would 

 be compelled to leave a certain proportion of his land 

 iii a tallow or tallow crop. 



57(50. Taking this as the actual cost of producing 

 lour acres of wheat that is (mother element which 

 should be added to that account?- Certainly. 



.">7i>7. In the respect that the land possessed more 

 before the wheat crop than it did after? Yes. 



.J706. Could these be added? Ye- : it i- only an 

 estimuu 1 , 1 think. 



The whole thing is to a considerable extent an 

 estimate? 1 do not mean in any der< 

 The question of the residual value of a previous 

 crop where it is mangold is, if I may suggest it, even 

 more on an estimate than anything else. 



0770. It would depend upon the whole history of 

 tho crop? Yes, and as to whether the farmer got a 

 crop or not. No. 7, for example, shows tW quarters 

 of oate and barley for 171 10s. That particular lieM 

 has never grown a white straw crop for 20 year- 

 pn vious to this. Whether I was right in putting that 

 in or not 1 do not know. 



5771. How is that? It has always been either roots 

 or potatoes. It is a big dairy farm just outside a 

 large town; it bos sometimes been a market garden. 



_'. Take No. 12 with reference to yield. 

 that appear to \ou r\ low yield or how dm - 



it compare with the normal yield: It i.s a low yield 

 and this year that particular farm is going to make 

 a very big loss. It is a thin i-oil on chalk and il ha- 

 dried right up. 



.".".!. This would really not be a normal comparison 

 of course to a return of the whole district? This 

 particular instance, No. 12, shows very badly this 

 year. Last \ear. which was a wet season, it would 

 have shown very well. As against that, No. 4 last 

 year would have shown a very much worse result than 

 it docs this year. No. 4 likes a dry season and 

 No. 12 likes a wet one. 



6774. .Mr. Cautlcy: Is that nine ijuurtvrs per Man 

 right? Yes. 



6776. Dr. Douglas: Do your ai counts contain any- 

 thing for interest? No. 



5776. Or supervision? No. 



6777. Or. for general oncosts of any kind? No. 



6778. Maintenance or depreciation of implements? 

 No, I have not taken interest or depreciation, ex- 

 cept in tho case of horse labour. The only en 

 which I have tuken depreciation into account is in 

 tho horses in arriving at the Ids. a day. 



6779. Tie Ion-, reallx arc- ae. mints of actual 

 outlays in manuring, labour and h That is so. 



5780. And rentr 



5781. That really is the whole ihing that these are? 

 Yes and binder twine 



6782. So that they are not really complete state 

 incuts of the cost of producing the crops? No. I 

 understood that yon did not wish any opinion as to 

 the interest on capital included. 



5783. I am not criticising. I am morel v getting at 

 what they actually are? Y- 



