CONGRESS, UNITED STATES. 



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tificates. When the vote of the State of Mis- 

 sissippi was announced 



Mr. Senator Sherman (one of the tellers) 

 said : " As the form in this case is somewhat 

 different from the others, I will read the cer- 

 tificate of the Governor." 



The Vice-President : "The Senator from 

 Illinois (Mr. Trumbull) objects to counting the 

 vote of the electors of the State of Mississippi, 

 on the ground that there is no certificate; they 

 voted by ballot, but for the present he reserves 

 that point." 



Senator Trumbull : " At the suggestion of a 

 Senator who thinks it would be a bad prece- 

 dent when an objection is raised to pass it over 

 aud go through with the vote in a matter of 

 such grave importance as this, I will present 

 the question now." 



The Vice-President: "Under the twenty- 

 second joint rule the Presiding Officer now 

 submits to the Senate and House of Repre- 

 sentatives in joint convention the objection 

 of the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. 

 Uoar). It will be reported." 



The Secretary of the Senate read as follows : 



Mr. Hoar objects that the votes reported by the tell- 

 ers as having been cost by the electors of the State 

 of Georgia for Horace Greeley, of New York, cannot 

 legally be counted, because said Horace Greeley, for 

 whoa they appear to have been east, was dead at 

 the time said electors assembled to cast their votes, 

 ami i not a person within the meaning of the Con- 

 stitution, this being an historical fact of which the 

 two Houses may take notice. 



The Vice-President: "Two copies will be 

 made of this objection, one for the Senate, 

 and one for the House of Representatives, to 

 be submitted to each House after the Senate 

 repairs to its Chamber." 



The Senator from Illinois (Mr. Tramliull) 

 mukes the following point, which the Presid- 

 ing Officer now submits to the two bodies in 

 joint convention. 



The Secretary of the Senate read as follows: 



Mr. Trumbull objects to counting the votes oast 

 for President and Vice-President by the electors in 

 the State of Mississippi, for the reason it does not 

 appear from the certificate of said electors that they 

 Toted by ballot. 



Senator Trumball : " I should like to have 

 read again the certificate of the Governor of 

 Misiiwippi, both the original and supplemental 

 papers." 



The Vice-President : " That will be done." 



Senator Trnmbnll : " It is suggested by my 

 colleague it would be well, as these papers 

 cannot be before both Houses when we sep- 

 arate, that for the information of both Houses 

 the papers be read in full at this time." 



The Vice-President: "The Chair will state 

 in this case, as in all other cases, there are two 

 copies in possession of the Presiding Officer, 

 one sent by mail, and one brought by mes- 

 senger. In this case they appear to be the 

 same." 



The papers were again rend. 



The Vice-President: "The Presiding Offi- 



cer will state that in the duplicate copies 

 sent by messenger the Governor's certificate 

 does not appear to have been included ; but 

 the substantial point made by the Senator 

 from Illinois (Mr. Trumbull) lies against botli 

 papers, that they do not state the electors 

 voted by ballot." 



The Vice-President : " The objection of the 

 gentleman from New York (Mr. Potter) will 

 be read as modified : " 



The Clerk read as follows': 



Mr. Potter objects to one vote of the State of 

 Mississippi, because the certificate declaring that J. 

 J. Spellman was appointed an elector in the stead of 

 A. T. Morgan, absent, by the electoral college of 

 that State, in accordance with the laws of that State, 

 is not signed by the Governor of that State. 



And, further, that the certificate of the Secretary 

 of State read does not certify any thing of his own 

 knowledge, but only states he has been so notified 

 as he certifies. 



The Vice-President : " Three questions hav- 

 ing arisen in regard to the counting of the 

 votes for President and Vice-President, the 

 Senate will now withdraw to their Chamber." 



The Senate accordingly retired. 



The Speaker, having called the House to 

 order, said: "In the joint convention for 

 counting the electoral votes, an objection was 

 made by the gentleman from Massachusetts 

 (Mr. Hoar) against counting the return from 

 the State of Georgia. The Clerk will read 

 the objection." 



The Clerk read as follows : 



Mr. Hoar objects that the votes reported by the 

 tellers as having been cast by the electors of the 

 State of Georgia for Horace Greeley, of New York, 

 cannot be lawfully counted, because said Horace 

 Greeley, for whom they appear to have been cast, 

 waa dead at the time said electors assembled and 

 cast their votes, and so not a person within the 

 meaning of the Constitution, this being an historic 

 fact of which the two Houses may properly take 

 notice. 



The Clerk then read the resolution as modi- 

 fied by Mr. Hoar, as follows: 



Retolved, That, in the judgment of the House of 

 Representatives, the votes reported by the tellers as 

 having been cast by the electors of the State of 

 Georgia for Horace Greeley, of New York, for Presi- 

 dent of the United States, ought not to be counted, 

 the said Horace Greeley having died before the said 

 votes were cast. 



The question was taken ; and it was decided 

 in the affirmative yeas 101, nays 99, not 

 voting 40. 



So the resolution was agreed to. 



The Speaker: "The Clerk will now read 

 the point certified to the House from the joint 

 convention, and which was raised by Mr. Trum- 

 bnll, a Senator from the State of Illinois." 



The Clerk read as follows : 



Mr. Trumbull objects to counting the votes cast 

 for President and Vice-President by the electors in 

 the State of Mississippi, for the reason that it does 

 not appear from the certificate of said electors that 

 they voted by ballot. 



Mr. Dawes : " I submit the following resolu- 

 tion:" 



