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thing more wonderful they had secured the co-operation 

 of the medical profession, and when they had a combination 

 of municipal effort with voluntary effort with voluntary 

 contributions, together with the medical profession, they 

 had, it seemed to him, reached the highest point of idealism. 

 In many parts of this country they could secure a certain 

 measure of support of voluntary effort by the municipality, 

 but it was in very few places that they could secure 

 sufficient co-operation between voluntary and municipal 

 work to enable them to do all that they ought to be able to 

 do, especially in regard to making experiments which would 

 not be justified by the expenditure of municipal money 

 wholly. When they could get money with which they 

 could experiment and that they could use for the purpose 

 of establishing such things as they had established in Cleve- 

 land, and then secure the support of the medical profession, 

 it seemed to him they had got everything they required. 

 He would like to induce everyone, especially those who 

 were engaged in municipal work, to read Dr. Gersten- 

 berger's paper with the utmost attention and see what 

 could be done in a huge community. They often heard of 

 ideal things being done in a small community, but there 

 they had a city of 600,000 inhabitants, who had reached at 

 one bound, it seemed to him, the ideal of what could be 

 done in regard to this work. He trusted that the excellent 

 example set before them in that .paper would act as a 

 stimulus to many of the municipalities and many of the 

 voluntary agencies of this country. (Cheers.) 



Miss RENAUD (Newcastle-upon-Tyne) said she would like 

 to ask Dr. Gerstenberger if he could give the Conference 

 a little more information with regard to what was done in 

 Cleveland in connection with pre-natal conditions. 



Mr. A. D. D. BANKS (Ashford) said that first of all 

 he had to congratulate very heartily Dr. Fremantle on the 

 very practical paper which he had put before them. In the 

 course of some few years of municipal work he had found 

 that the local authorities were people that needed to be 

 brought up to the mark to do what they could to carry 

 out the powers that they already had in their hands. One 

 was constantly coming into contact with local authorities 

 who looked to the s. d. aspect of things and they 

 approached every question from that one standpoint. It 

 appeared to him that too often that was the wrong stand- 

 point they *vere studying economy without efficiency of 

 administration, and what often happened was- that for the 

 sake of an extra Jd. or id. rate the best interests of a large 

 number of the populace were sacrificed. He would be 



