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between themselves, and that she would restore my lord to 

 his former attendance, with some addition of honour to 

 take away discontent. But towards the end of Easter 

 term her majesty brake with me, and told me that she had 

 found my words true, for that the proceeding in the Star 

 Chamber had done no good, but rather kindled factious 

 bruits (as she termed them) than quenched them, and 

 therefore that she was determined now for the satisfaction 

 of the world, to proceed against my lord in the Star 

 Chamber, by an information ore terms, and to have my 

 lord brought to his answer; howbeit she said, she would 

 assure me that whatsoever she did should be towards my 

 lord ad castigationem, et non ad destructionem, as indeed 

 she had often repeated the same phrase before : whereunto 

 I said, to the end utterly to divert her, Madam, if you 

 will have me speak to you in this argument, I must speak 

 to you as Friar Bacon s head spake, that said first, Time 

 is, and then Time was, and Time would never be ; for cer 

 tainly, said I, it is now far too late, the matter is cold, and 

 hath taken too much wind ; whereat she seemed again 

 offended, and rose from me, and that resolution for a while 

 continued ; and after, in the beginning of Midsummer term, 

 I attending her, and finding her settled in that resolution, 

 which I heard of also otherwise, she falling upon the like 

 speech, it is true, that seeing no other remedy, I said to 

 her slightly, Why, madam, if you will needs have a pro 

 ceeding, you were best have it in some such sort as Ovid 

 spake of his mistress, Est aliquid luce, patente minus, to 

 make a council-table matter of it, and there an end ; which 

 speech again she seemed to take in ill part, but yet I think 

 it did good at that time, and helped to divert that course 

 of proceeding by information in the Star Chamber. Never 

 theless, afterwards it pleased her to make a more solemn 

 matter of the proceeding, and some few days after, when 



