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majesty and the realms ? I have eased myself these three days in this kind, 

 but am enforced to prevent their complaint by this humble representation unto 

 your majesty. I most humbly, therefore, crave your majesty s directions, 

 denied to none of your servants that desire them, to be signified unto me by the 

 Lord Admiral at his lordship s best conveniency. 



The fair and familiar Conference which the Lord Treasurer had with the Lord 

 Keeper after some Expostulations of his own, and the issue joined thereupon 

 at Whitehall, September 7, 1622. 



OBJECT. 1. There is taken 40,000 for petitions in your house this year. 



SOL. .Not much above the fortieth part of the money for all the dispatches of 

 the Chancery, Star-Chamber, Councel-Table, Parliament, the great diocese of 

 Lincoln, the jurisdiction of Westminster, and St. Martin s le Grand ; all which 

 have resort to my house by petitions. 



OB. 2. You have yourself a share in the money. 



SOL. Then let me have no share in God s kingdom j it is such a baseness as 

 never came within the compass of my thoughts. 



OB. 3. It is commonly reported you pay to my Lord Admiral 1,000 per 

 mensem. 



SOL. As true as the other. The means of my place will reach to no more 

 than two months. 



OB. 4. You never receive any petitions with your own hands, but turn them 

 to your secretaries, who take double fees, one for receiving, and the other for 

 delivering. 



SOL. Let the Cloisters at Westminster answer for me. I never to this day 

 received any petition from my secretaries, which I had formerly delivered unto 

 them with my own hands. This is a new fashion which my lord hath found in 

 some other courts. 



OB. 5. You sell days of hearing at higher rates than ever they were at. 



SOL. I never disposed of any since I came to this place, but leave them 

 wholly to the six clerks and registers, to be set down in their antiquity. Unless 

 his lordship means hearing of motions in the paper of peremptories, which I 

 seldom deny upon any petition, and which are worth no money at all. 



OB. 6. You usually reverse decrees upon petitions. 



SOL. I have never reversed, altered, explained, or endured a motion, or peti 

 tion, that touched upon a decree once pronounced ; but have sometimes made 

 orders in pursuance of the same. 



OB. 7. You have three doorkeepers, and are so locked up, that no man can 

 have access unto you. 



SOL. I have no such officer in all my house, unless his lordship means the 

 college porters; nor no locks at all, but his majesty s business, which I must 

 respect above ceremonies and compliments. 



OB. 8. You are cried out against over all the kingdom for an insufferable 

 oppression and grievance. 



SOL. His lordship (if he have any friends) may hear of such a cry, and 

 yet be pleased to mistake the person cried out against. 



OB. 9. All the lords of the council cry out upon you, and you are a wretched 

 and a friendless man, if no man acquaints you with it. 



SOL. I am a wretched man indeed if it be so. And your lordship Cat the 

 least) a very bold man if it be otherwise. 



OB. 10. I will produce particular witnesses, and make all these charges 

 good. 



SOL. I know your lordship cannot, and I do call upon you to do it, as sus 

 pecting all to be but your lordship s envy and malice to that service of the 

 king s, and ease of his subjects, which God hath enabled me to accomplish, and 

 perform in this troublesome office. J. L. C. S. 



