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THURSDAY AFTERNOON SESSION. 



The meeting was called to order at 2 :00 o'clock. 



SENATOR GUTHRIE : We have had representatives from Illinois and 

 from our own state presiding at our meeting and now I am going to call 

 on one from Ohio Mr. Secrest, will you preside at our session this after- 

 noon? 



Mr. Secrest took the chair. 



THE CHAIRMAN: We had an interesting session this morning and 

 according to a suggestion which was made just before we adjourned for 

 lunch, we will now give some time to discussion of the subjects presented 

 this morning. I hope you will feel free to discuss these subjects quite 

 thoroughly. 



PROFESSOR COULTER: A great part of the work was about the 

 proper management and care of woodland. How do you provide for the 

 expenses of that? Does the department pay it? 



THE CHAIRMAN: In the case of woodlots the state has paid the 

 expenses. In the case of timber estimates, the traveling expenses are paid 

 by the owner. It may be questionable whether or not this is the proper 

 thing to do, but it seemed the best to us. How far it will be carried out, 

 I don't know. 



PROF. COULTER: What appropriation have you? 



THE CHAIRMAN : We have about twenty-six thousand dollars a year. 

 It is a lump sum which we handle as we please as far as instructional and 

 investigational work is concerned. 



MR. FORBES : I would like to inquire of Mr. Lieber if I understood 

 him correctly when he said the maximum price of some of the forest land 

 secured* was ten dollars per acre. I don't know of any ten dollar land in 

 Illinois. 



MR. LIEBER : We have recently made an investigation and Mr. Deam 

 can answer you. He has found land for ten dollars an acre and perhaps 

 some less than ten dollars. 



MR. DEAM : Well, my experience in that line has been rather limited. 

 We have located a few facts, however, about six hundred acres for eight 

 dollars per acre and one owner said he could furnish about four hundred 

 acres at ten dollars per acre. But in many parts of the state I have found 

 that you can't buy any land of any type for less than twenty-five or fifty 

 dollars. 



LT.-COL. GRAVES : You mean that in buying land to work out a sub- 

 stantial program the prices would run something like twenty -five dollars? 



MR. DEAM : Yes. There is quite a good deal of the land in the valleys 

 which would run one hundred or one hundred twenty-five dollars. This 

 land has good buildings on it, however. 



MR. MILLER: I think we have land for thirty-five dollars or fifty 

 dollars. 



LT.-COL. GRAVES: Does that have anv Umber on It? 



MR, MILLER : Yes, a little. 



