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they gave us $619,700 for two years' work. In 1917, $813,000. The ques- 

 tion was asked as to where the money comes from. We do not grow it on 

 trees. A certain sum of money is set aside for us, definite sums for defi- 

 nite things. I have a statement of the appropriations for 1919 : 



Department Administrative Expenses $ 353,200 



Surveys 6,000 



Labor 190,000 



Purchase of Lands 130,000 



Materials, Equipment, etc 85,000 



Bureau of Forest Protection 90,000 



Forest Academy ; 30,000 



District Foresters 15,000 



School Charges 43,000 



Road Charges 43,000 



County Charges 21,500 



$1,006,700 



LT.-COL. GRAVES: The papers this morning and some of the papers 

 yesterday afternoon made mention of co-operation with the Federal 

 Government. I am referring to the interests of these three states. Just 

 what that co-operation should be was not specified. Co-operating with the 

 Federal Government in meeting this problem will mean that there is a 

 responsibility on the part of these states in connection with the federal 

 acivities and in the establishment of instructive measures. One of the 

 things which can be done, which we are trying to do, is the purchase 

 of lands by the Federal Government. We have laid out a program in the 

 southern Appalachians of about a million acres. We believe that this 

 program is much too small for the public needs in the long run. We have 

 talked a good deal about general co-operation with the Federal Government. 

 The Federal Government is to be able to co-operate with these states as 

 well as other states. It is but a question of expressing your interest and 

 demand co-operation and you will get it. If the public don't want this, it 

 won't be forthcoming. 



THE CHAIRMAN: If there are any other questions, now is the time 

 to ask them. 



MR. LIEBER : May I suggest we begin our regular program because we 

 will have a number of questions to come up after our papers have been 

 delivered this afternoon. 



THE CHAIRMAN : We will proceed with our afternoon program. We 

 have with us a gentleman who has been connected with the State Board 

 of Forestry ever since the work was organized in Indiana. It gives me 

 pleasure to introduce Prof. Stanley Coulter. His subject is "Forestry Edu- 

 cational Policies." 



PROF. STANLEY COULTER: I do not purpose making a formal 

 address upon this subject, since I feel it more important to develop a discus- 

 sion than to present a paper. 



