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on '' Dentist ". Mrs. Payne wished her son to get 

 the place, but when she saw " Dentist " she retracted. 

 " Phoebus," a roan stallion ; sold to John Spicer for 

 ^200, afterwards at Badminton for many years. At 

 one time there were eleven roan fillies there by him. 

 " Valeria," a chestnut mare which I bought from Bob 

 Cathcart. 



I bought " Rigoletto " at Lord Spencer's sale, as 

 Charles Payne had ridden him. I bought a lot of 

 cub-hunters from John Darby at Rugby. After 

 cub-hunting season, sold them at Birmingham. It 

 was a bad day and bad sale ; lost a lot of money 

 on them — ;^8o. On mentioning it to John Darby he 

 deducted half {;^4o) off my account. 



I engaged Payne as huntsman. He had been 

 eighteen years with the Pytchley and had almost 

 been his own master, and he did not look on my 

 arrival with much satisfaction. He was a very 

 smart-looking man, with a very curious sharp way of 

 speaking. He was a first-rate horseman, no better 

 across Northamptonshire, but he was not a first-class 

 huntsman — not to compare with John Walker, old 

 Will Goodall, Tom Firr, Will Dale or young Will 

 Goodall. He was a galloping huntsman, and de- 

 pended a good deal on the assistance of his first 

 whip, Jack Woodcock, who was often on the top of 

 the hill in front of him. He had little hound language, 

 and not a very good voice. " Hooyler," he used 

 to cry to get his hounds to him. He was not an 

 affectionate man to his hounds, and never made 

 friends with them. Captain Mildmay Clerk being 



