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apples. In general, the large orchard operations m New 

 York packed by this scheme. They were very carefully 

 graded and marked, however, ^"Ungraded." 



To avoid that point what they want to do is to put in a 

 word which would signify not that they had not been grad- 

 ed, but that they were not one of the primary classes. 

 They weren't classified, — you take your chances on them. 



MR. ANNIN: Isn't "classified" about the same as 

 as "graded"? 



MR. PALMER : I do not think so. You do not use the 

 word "classifying" apples; you 'use the word "grading" 

 apples. Grading apples is an operation in itself. The use 

 of the word "ungraded," that means you haven't graded 

 them. You don't class apples. 



MR. STOCKWELL: If it doesn't make any difference 

 the less complication the better. 



PROFESSOR CHENOWETII: The only objection to 

 the word "ungraded" is the fact that it works a hardship 

 somewhere. There is the man who has 20 barrels of apples 

 and who can 't afford to grade them. Another man has 100 

 barrels of apples and he grades his. What goes into his un- 

 graded are culls, and yet the first man's ungraded barrel 

 is a pretty good class of apples. Yet they both go on the 

 market under the same brand. It seems to me both the con- 

 sumer and the producer ought to be protected, because if 

 the apples are worth more in one case to the producer the 

 words "ungraded" and "unclassified" ought to be applied, 

 if that be a legitimate protection. 



MR. PALMER: Wouldn't it be possible to add on to 

 cover those cases a small stamp saying "orchard run," for 

 instance as is done frequently in New York? "Unclassi- 

 fied" or "ungraded" and then "orchard run." That 

 would cover that i)oint. 



THE PRESIDENT : The time has now come where we 

 wnll have to change the subject and take up the next speaker. 



MR. ANNIN: I see ten people in favor of changing 

 "ungraded" to "unclassified". How many are in favor of 



