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MR. HUTCHINS : May I ask Mr. Annin if that is sup- 

 posed to be a closed package? 



MR. ANNIN : We call that a closed package. New Jer- 

 sey has no apple grading law. 



MR. BARCLAY : New York has an apple grading law 

 applying to apples in barrels but we have never had to pay 

 any attention to it with the hamper. 



MR. ANNIN: The New York law refers to apples 

 packed in the State of New York. We are referring to 

 apples which, in his case, are shipped into New York. 



MR. BARCLAY: We have to pack under it when we 

 ship to New York in barrels. 



MR. ANNIN : I do not believe you have to. 



MR. BARCLAY: We always have. The commission 

 men told us that was the best plan. 



MR. ANNIN: But you do not have to, because the ap- 

 ples are packed in New Jersey, and shipped into New York 

 and don't come under that law. The only apples which 

 come under our law here are apples packed in this state. 

 Apples packed in New Hampshire and Connecticut do not 

 come under our law. 



MR. HUTCHINS: In working against the aphis, where 

 you combine lime-sulfur with the black-leaf — 40, do you put 

 in the soap, then? 



MR. BARCLAY : No. 



MR. HUTCHINS: You do not need it, or does it hurt 

 the mixture ? 



MR. BARCLAY: I imagine it would. Dr. Headle 

 doesn't advise using soap with lime-sulfur and arsenate of 

 lead. 



MR. STOCKWELL : I would like to ask the speaker if he 

 doesn't think it advisable in controlling the aphis to wait un- 

 til the buds are just ready to open and then by adding the 

 Black-leaf -40 it kills the parent aphis. 



MR. BARCLAY: I don't think that is advisable under 

 all conditions. Where would you be if you got a week of 

 stormv weather? 



