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pay as soon as the fruit is delivered, — in almost every in- 

 stance. Once in a great while one might wait a little while. 

 Most of our early apples are sold through the commission 

 men, — practically all of them, up to the time the Jonathan 

 and Mcintosh begin to come, 



MR. STOCKWELL : I would like to ask the speaker if 

 he wants us to cultivate our orchards when one of the lead- 

 ing men in the State of Massachusetts raises the nicest apples 

 without cultivation ? 



MR. BARCLAY: None at all, if your conditions do not 

 require it. But I prefer to cultivate. Our practice is to 

 cultivate. I have as yet to see as nice fruit grown on the 

 unculivated orchard as can be grown in the cultivated or- 

 chard. 



MR. HUTCHINS: What do you consider the cost of 

 thinning a 15-year-old tree? 



MR. BARCLAY: It would depend on conditions. 



MR. HUTCHINS: What is the average charge in your 

 own orchard? 



MR. BARCLAY: Again that would depend on what 

 you had to pay the man, whether you could get him at all or 

 not. A man that had some experience, probably, would thin 

 15 or 20 trees — 12 or 15-year-old. He might not do that 

 on some varieties. On other varieties he would do that and 

 more. Take the Mcintosh, if it was very full, probably 

 might not thin over a dozen. 



PRESIDENT MARGESON : I would like to say in re- 

 gard to growing under cultivation, I do not think the full 

 story was given when Mr. Marshall's orchard was referred 

 to. Mr. Marshall grows his apples in a different way than 

 men who grow them uncultivated. He keeps an open space 

 of about six feet with no sod growing around the trees. 

 That is not the same proposition as where the grass grows 

 up around the trees. 



MR. BARCLAY: No doubt there are conditions where 

 you cannot practice cultivation. 



THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other matters to 



