TJl'ENTY-FIRSr ANNUAL MEETING. 273 



A Meimber: Do you always pack the apples with the 

 stem end up? 



Mr. Castner : Where we can pack on the calyx end we 

 do it. That is for this reason. We get less bruising from 

 packing in that way. 



A Member : Is there such a thing as one pack being 

 more popular than another pack? 



Mr. Castner : Yes, there is. We have in the West two 

 kinds of pack ; one kno\\n as the straight pack, and ihe other 

 the square pack. One is 2-2 diagonal, and the other is 3-2. 

 The diagonal and the square pack. In that kind of a pack 

 all the apples are packed one on top of the other, four across 

 the box like that, and then down here, every apple being 

 packed one on top of the other. In that case, of course, when 

 you put the cover on it jams every apple tightly into place, 

 but it does not make any bruising. In the other way, on the 

 diagonal, one apple rests in between three like that. T will 

 show you how that is done as I go along. 



A Member: What is the difference in the size of \our 

 boxes ? 



A'Ir. Castner: We have what we call the Hood River 

 standard, the dimensions being ten and one-half deep, eleven 

 and one-half Avide and eighteen inches long, inside measure- 

 ment. The other is ten inches deep, eleven inches wide, and 

 twenty inches long. I think the time is coming when we will 

 eliminate all special boxes and use just the standard size, be- 

 cause all-sized apples can be packed in the standard box. 

 Tw-enty-five different sizes of apples can be packed in that 

 box, and packed right. Two thousand one hundred and sev- 

 enty-three cubic inches is a standard box. The other is larger 

 and holds more than a bushel. 



A Member : How much is it short of a bushel ? 



Mr. Castner : It is not short. This is twenty-three cu- 

 bic inches over a bushel-. In Madison Square Garden, at the 

 Land Sho\v, that subject was brought up a number of times, 

 so we sent out and got a sealer of weights and measures, and 

 he took the apples out of one of these standard boxes, and 



