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THE AMERICAN BEE JOURNAL. 



its sweets, instead of producing it; tliought 

 it unaccountable. 



Mr. Kiley— The sweets would draw all 

 kinds of gnats, etc.. jiist as molasses would. 



Mr. R. Sallee— This subject sliould be 

 investigated. 



Mr. P. P. Collier— If it be honey, then 

 we must admit that it is from the same 

 source as otlier honey; if not, then what is 

 it? The great Father created bees and put 

 them here, not to starve, but made ample 

 provision for their subsistence, and as the 

 manna fell in the wilderness, so the dew 

 falls for the bees. One says it is the pro- 

 duction of the Aphides; if so, tell me wliere 

 they get it, and how produced? 



Mr. Bane— Never saw any honey dew only 

 when the insects are flying; all insects have 

 their time, and the Aphides have theirs to 

 deposit the drops we see on the leaves. 

 Why do we not have honey dew every year? 



Mr. A. A. Collier said the same that pro- 

 duced lioney one year did so on another. 

 The Aphides came one year and did not 

 another; where we had Aphides we had 

 honey dew, if they did not come we had no 

 <lew. 



Mr. Sallee— Sorghum talcen by bees was 

 still sorghum, so with all sugars, but the 

 dew turned to real honey. 



Mr. A. A. Collier— We must call it honey 

 <for if the bees carried it in, it was honey) 

 after the source whence gathered, we say 

 white clover honey, Spanish needle honey, 

 etc., now if it be sorghum we must call it 

 sorghum honey. A lengthy discussion fol- 

 lowed until the hoj.ir arrived for adjourn- 

 ment. 



PKOGRAMME FOK THE SECOND DAY. 



" The best hive," F. P. Bane. 



"Agriculture as taught in Agricultural 

 Colleges, Prof. G. C. Swallow. 



"Honey as an article of food," Dr. P. 

 French. 



" Queen rearing," Dr. E. C. Larcli. 



" Italians vs. Blacks," Dr. Morse of Co- 

 lumbia. 



"Who sliould keep bees," D. H. Chase. 



Mr. Bane read a very able paper setting 

 forth the advantages and disadvantages of 

 hives from the log gum to the various patent 

 hives, winding up by giving the Langstroth 

 as " The hive." 



Mr. P. P. Collier said that the advantage 

 of the Langstroth over the American for 

 extracting, was that in the latter the honey 

 and brood were all together and in the 

 former it was not, for it had two chambers, 

 the lower for brood, the upper for honey. 

 The lower gave the Queen plenty of room 

 for brood, the upper story plenty of room in 

 wliich to store lioney. The cards of comb 

 were easily removed and changed about, 

 while in the American it was more difficult. 



Mr. Sallee said a hive without side open- 

 ings was objectionable, for he could not 

 help crushing bees and honey, he did not 

 fully approve of the American, but thought 

 if it was so constructed as to use a honey 

 board, it would answer every purpose. He 

 had the Quinby and thought it very nice 

 when there was no bees in it; the double 

 walls for practical use he did not like. 



Mr. A. A. Collier liad just transferred two 

 colonies without the destruction of a single 

 bee; he killed more bees in the American 

 than in any other hive, it being necessary to 

 use muscular force to get the frames back 

 and the doors shut; lie much preferred the 

 Langstroth. 



Mr. Bane did not like doors and slides as 

 the bees would stick them fast; this was 

 obviated in tlie Langstroth. 



Mr. J. Sallee — Better and straighter comb 

 is built in the American than others. 



Mr. P. P. Collier— The American frame 

 was deeper and bees would go straight to 

 the bottom (if the hive set level); so it was 

 in the Langstroth, could not see why as 

 good comb could not be obtained in Langs- 

 troth as any hive. 



President— It is often necessary to extract 

 from the brood nest to give the Queen room; 

 he liked the Langstroth very much. 



Mr. W. W. Trimble— The advocates of 

 the Langstroth proved to him that there 

 were more danger of killing bees than 

 others; he liked the Cottage; he believed 

 he would turn inventor— put a top story on 

 the Cottage hive. 



President— The Cottage is objectionable, 

 as the bees get too much on the outside. 



Mr. Sallee had some experience with the 

 Cottage hive; he put some comb in frames, 

 then attempted to get in the bees, they ran 

 around on one side; he followed with smoke, 

 they ran on the other side; he chased around 

 and around until exhausted, failing to get 

 his bees in. He did not like the doors and 

 slide glass. 



Mr. A. A. Collier asked what use to a hive 

 were doors and slides? 



Mr. Sallee— Because a two inch comb 

 could not come through an inch and a half 

 space (having reference to the Langstroth 

 frame. 



Mr. A. A. Collier— I can move tlie frames 

 so as to have three inch space, to raise a one 

 ana a half inch frame. He saw no use in 

 glass in hives, for when the bees were in 

 they covered the comb so as to prevent see- 

 ing what they were doing. The Langstroth 

 was preferable on account of robbers, etc. 



Dr. P. French and Professor Swallow not 

 beingpresent, the 3d and 3rd questions were 

 passed, and the 4th taken up by Dr. Larch 

 of Ashland, wlio read a very able and in- 

 structive paper on "Queen Rearing." This 

 was listened to with that profound respect 

 due to one who knows "whereof lie 

 speaks." 



ITALIANS vs. BLACKS. 



• Dr. Morse not being present, an informal 

 discussion toolc place resulting in favor of 

 the former. 



" WHO SHOULD KEEP BEES." 



Mr. D. H. Chase said there was a differ- 

 ence of opinion as to the meaning of the 

 proposition. 



Mr. A. A. Collier said all had a right to 

 keep bees, and we had no right to say wlio 

 should or who should not; some keep them 

 for profit; others for pleasure. 



Mr. P. P. Collier thought differently; it 

 meant adaptation. "Who is adapted?" 

 "Who should farm?" "Who should be a 

 mechanic?" He must love to work with 

 bees, if he has not, he had better sell out to 

 those who had, or be a loser. 



Mr. J. Sallee— Ladies should keep bees; 

 they were always at home to see to and 

 watch over them; he thought they were the 

 proper ones to keep bees. 



HOW MUCH HONEY SHOULD BEES HAVE TO 

 WINTER ON? 



President— On summer stands, 25 to 30 

 pounds; if housed not so much. 

 Dr. Larch— Leave plenty. 



