If the Forest Service is a University to teaoh 

 us who are youngsters in the work: to IDG observant, there 

 may "be some instructive value in insisting that we taZre 

 those notos, "but it talres an elastic imagination to call 

 that a practical value* 



I do not wish to go on record as opposdd to ob~ 

 ' taiiiing a thorough silvical Icaowledge of sale areas, end 

 in fact , of the whole Forest , "but I believe that must "be 

 gotten and used on the ground* 



In my opinion, the silvioal notos which we talre 

 are of no practical value, for the reason that they are 

 not and can not "be usod to further the ond "common sense" 

 or in other words "scientific" Forest management. The 

 ortra time which is usod in taking the notos could v/ell "be 

 used in perfecting our mechanical methods of estimating 



and mappingo 



Long discussion. 



11:40 " TCith Ordinary Intensive Reconnaissance Costing 



5^ per aero, and Ezrfc ens ive 'Piano Table Reconnais- 

 sance Costing Ifetf per aero, Intensive Reconnais- 

 sance Preferable - T?hy? 



VA1TS: 



! Object of Reconnaissance* To got amount, kind, 

 condition and location of timber, and to malro a topographic 



map. 



2^. Methods in use. - Intensive and Sstensive. 

 (a) Intensive reconnaissance - Mado with a compass sur- 



