950 NORTH ATLANTIC COAST FISHERIES ARBITRATION. 



tions are made dealing with all sorts of matters affecting the prosecu- 

 tion of the fisheries bultows amongst them and that from time to 

 time, profiting by the experience gained from year to year, these rules 

 are changed, amended and sometimes rescinded altogether. This 

 goes on and must of necessity go on from year to year. Among other 

 things, those who are entrusted with these powers and duties have 

 come to the conclusion that in certain places bultows are objection- 

 able, that they have a bad effect upon the fishing operations of these 

 localities and the result is, without going into details, as has already 

 been stated, at certain places which are marked on the maps, which 

 I believe, are being put in for the information of the Tribunal, these 

 regulations against the use of bultows are in force. It is not general 

 or universal. It is only applied to certain places around the coasts 

 and shores of the island and, as one of my associates has observed, 

 none of these places are where the Americans go to catch fish. None 

 of these regulations affect the Americans in the prosecution of their 

 fishery except in one place only, and that is between the Rameau 

 Islands and Cape Ray where the use of bultows is prohibited. As I 

 have stated already, the position of the United States fishermen on 

 that matter is either that they do not fish there at all, or if they do 

 fish at all in that neighbourhood it is to a very small extent indeed. 

 The fishing grounds, as everybody knows, because it is a matter of 

 public knowledge and notoriety, are farther than 3 miles out to sea. 

 If any fish are caught in near the shore it is in very small quantities. 

 The American fishermen have complied with the law, because there 

 is no evidence before this Court to the contrary, and we must presume 

 that they have obeyed the law. Certainly they have never 

 569 found any fault with the law up to the present time. On the 

 other hand, as I have stated, on other parts of the coast bul- 

 tows are prohibited, but it is only the Newfoundland fishermen who 

 are prohibited from using them by these rules and regulations, be- 

 cause the Americans have no right to fish there, and even when they 

 had the right they never went there to fish because the fishery prose- 

 cuted by the American fishermen is out in the deep water on the 

 banks and not in the bays, creeks and harbours of Newfoundland 

 where these bultow regulations are in force. 



THE PRESIDENT : Perhaps it would be useful for us to indicate the 

 different localities on the map. 



SIR JAMES WINTER : All I can say is 



THE PRESIDENT : Perhaps one of the other gentlemen will have the 

 kindness. 



SIR JAMES WINTER : I might observe that counsel on the other side 

 said that they had maps and were ready to furnish them to the Court. 



JUDGE GRAY: This gentleman (referring to Mr. O'Reilly) will 

 point them out on the map here. 



