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Mr. CAMPBELL. The circulation is about 5,000. I think the subscription circula- 

 tion would be probably between 1,500 and 2,000. 



Mr. BERTRAM. What about getting additional matter ? 



Mr. CAMPBELL. Well, that is largely a question of supply. The demand is there 

 all right, but the supply is not there to meet it. 



FATHER BURKE. If you have no time to do that, you cannot get time for it, and. 

 probably cannot get the money from the Department to help you. 



Mr. CAMPBELL. Not just at present. 



Mr. MACOUN. Mr. Chairman, we should consider some of OUT duties. One of our 

 duties is to spend the money we get. I think in an organization of this kind there is 

 every excuse for living up to the last dollar, and, if necessary, going into debt in order 

 that it may ask for more money. If ever an organization had an excuse for doing 

 this, I think this is the one organization. We find that our subscriptions from mem- 

 bership which we hope to largely increase during the year is ample to run our 

 affairs. Now, with what face can we go to any Government, either Provincial or 

 Dominion, and ask them for money ? If we spend our money, and then go to the 

 representatives of either the Dominion or Provincial Government and say, ' During 

 the year we have had a thousand dollars ; this is what we have done with it. In order 

 to continue that work and enlarge on it in certain directions ' which you could point 

 out ' we need more money.' In that way I think we would not only get the grant 

 which we have received, but would get larger grants from -those who give us nothing. 

 If you went to the governments of Quebec, British Columbia, Ontario or any of the 

 provincial governments, and I were in authority, I would ask, ' What did you do with 

 the money \ve gave you last year ?' Pile up a balance of $900 I Now, I am not say- 

 ing whether we should continue with Rod and Gun, or establish a paper of our own. 

 I am editor of a publication which publishes monthly, of 20 or 30 pages, and costs 

 $250 a year. Now, we have $700 of a balance no matter what form our publication 

 would take. Whether we increase space with Rod and Gun, or publish quarterly or 

 monthly, $500 would be ample, not only to publish as much matter as we would have, 

 certainly three or four hundred pages 300 pages at least and, if necessary, pay an 

 (<lit or. Now and to-day is the time to settle what we are to do. If we put it off for 

 another year, we must consider definitely that we have lost one year more. Whether 

 we issue bulletins, as Father Burke has suggested, or get more matter into Rod and 

 Gun, I think it is a shame that an association organized for the purposes that this is 

 organized for, should carry over from year to year a balance; the little sum of $300 

 expended in the necessary running expenses of an organization which meets once a 

 Mar. Of course, we have our annual report, which shows nothing but the proceedings 

 >f rlie Association and the papers read before it, but the time has come for a more 

 general dissemination of knowledge than we could possibly get o\v from Government 

 sources, and I think every one of the provinces would be delighted to give this organi- 

 zation a large sum, provided at the beginning of the fiscal year we could go to the 

 different departments and show each what has been done. I think we can do that, but 

 I cannot see with what face the Association can do this now. We are a self-sustainintr 

 organization, and I do not see why we should put this matter off for another year. 



