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The CHAIRMAN. The matter is now open for discussion. 



Mr. BERTRAM. One of the questions that came into my mind while thinking of 

 the difficulties that exist in connection with a publication of that kind was this: Of 

 course we want to get at the public as much as possible and if you adopt that resolu- 

 tion which I do not get up for the purpose of objecting to, but of offering some sug- 

 gestions to the Association I do not very well see how you can get forestry literature 

 brought together without hiring an editor. You would require to have an editor for 

 the publication. Then there are two classes of people the Forestry Association would 

 like to send the publication to, the lumbermen and the farmers. Now we have two 

 organs that, if we could get the information in good shape, would be very glad to 

 make arrangements for the publication of such matter. One of them is the Canadian 

 Lumberman, and the other is the Farmers' Advocate. And they would reach just the 

 class of readers we want to reach. Now, speaking of the Canadian Lumberman, I 

 want to say that, in Ontario especially I do not know what they are doing in Que- 

 bec but in Ontario we have adopted the system of having libraries in our camps, 

 and we want to send a good class of publication to the libraries. Speaking for my- 

 self, for instance, I send three daily papers to each of my camps during every winter. 

 I send the Canadian Lumberman to the foreman, but we want to send a couple of 

 copies anyway to each camp. In that way they would reach just the proper class of 

 people. One of the greatest difficulties we have is the utter carelessness of the men 

 themselves. We preach to them about it, but they will slash down the young trees 

 in spite of all we can do, and we are only now getting them educated to spare them. 

 A publication of that kind would be of very gre,at value to men of this kind. And 

 then the farmers have, no doubt, great need to be awakened to the necessity of plant- 

 ing on the rough spots on their farms, which are of a great deal more value for the 

 growth of forest trees than they are for cultivation. If you had a series of articles 

 on forestry in those papers you would get them into the hands of j)eople who are 

 really in need of education in that way. There is an awakening interest among the 

 farmers in that direction. If we had such articles in these papers the Canadian 

 ''Lumberman and an agricultural paper I think they would do much good. The ar- 

 ticles would be of very great interest and would be published in the daily newspapers 

 also, as these papers are looking for just such interesting articles as those. While I 

 do not propose to make any motion against this, if it could be recognized by the com- 

 mittee and a way brought about whereby special publications of this kind, which 

 really reach the people, could be utilized, I think it would be a great step forward. 



FATHER BURKE. I might say, as Chairman of that committee, that we considered 

 every phase of the question which Mr. Bertram has so well put- before this Associa- 

 tion, and came to the conclusion that it was absolutely necessary that we should have 

 : an official organ. And this committee that has been constituted to carry out our 

 object in that regard would develop the work of the Association on broad lines by 

 communicating with those special organs which Mr. Bertram speaks of, matter from 

 our publication and then getting it sent broadcast throughout the country; and that 

 we would, as years went by and circumstances permitted, so extend and develop the 

 arrangements for publication that it would meet all requirements. But for the pre- 

 sent we thought that the only thing to do was that which we have done, and that is 

 the reason we recommended that resolution in the terms in which it now stands. 



