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F\IIH:U I!i KKE. This discussion as to the water sources, and also the idea of re- 



aff ore- tat inn l>y >cvds are very practical, and we should have time to discuss them and 



oe to some conclusion, but just at present we have the very valuable paper of Pro- 



r Iudi'ii. tin- Principal of the University, before us, and some action ought to be 



ii mi that point with a view to having a properly equipped forestry department in 



connection with some University of Canada. The country requires it. It is a big 



ninl growing country and we cannot do better than provide for the exigencies of that 



growth. 



'his point Mr. Marcel Hoehn, of Berlin, exhibited to those present two seedling 

 pines grown from seed planted in April, 1003. The display aroused much interest 

 and favourable comment. 



The CHAIRMAN. Professor Goodwin, of Queen's University, is here. We would 

 like to hear from him, if he would kindly favour us. 



Dr. GOODWIN. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen : My interest ir -this subject is very 

 keen. I was just saying to a friend I met to-day in going away from the meeting, that 

 it seemed to me in looking back over my life I had been born in the woods, and brought 

 up in the woods, so that I may be pardoned if, although not a forester in any sense, 

 I may profess and show some considerable interest in this subject which is occupying 

 us to-day. I think, Mr. Chairman, that the proposal to discuss the three papers just 

 read was a very wise one, and it struck me, as the papers were read one after the 

 other, and as the discussion of the first two came on, that the problems of reforesta- 

 tion, of the establishment of forest reserves, and of forestry education were so in- 

 timately connected that you could not prevent the three papers from being discussed 



her, and after President London's admirable resume was given to us it seemed 

 as if we already had a great deal of discussion which might have arisen from the 

 reading of that paper. I think that the points that have been emphasized with regard 

 to the setting aside of foret reserves and reforestation are exceedingly important 

 ones, and I was especially struck with what has been called to my attention before, 

 with the emphasis that has been laid upon the state as the best and the only forester. 

 This is a point which has given rise to a great deal of discussion. It has been dis- 

 cussed several times to my knowledge as to whether it would be advisable to introduce 

 the system of scientific forestry into the practice of our lumbermen who'have bought 

 their limits from the government and who are realizing as best they can on these 

 limits. Now, one cannot blame the lumbermen for wishing to realize, because, as has 

 often been pointed out, the risks which they run are very great and if they do not 

 realize on their limits as quickly as possible they are constantly running the risk of 

 losing a very large part of their profits. But Mr. Bertram has shown us by his able 

 paper, and by his answers to questions, that it is possible for a private owner to in- 

 troduce the principles of scientific forestry into his handling of his property, and to 

 introduce them in such a way as to be perfectly satisfactory to his own interests, and 

 I am sure that many of us who listened to Mr. Bertram's paper wished that we could 

 just turn from our occupations and follow his lead, and go into the woods and be prac- 

 tical foresters, as he has become, greatly to his delight. I do not wish, Mr. Chairman, 

 to occupy your time. I have had opportunities of giving my views on forestry educa- 



