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tion before this Association before. You are well acquainted with them, and it would 

 be really trespassing too much on your time for me to repeat what I have said on 

 former occasions. Of course one is always getting new light on such subjects, but 

 I may sum up by saying that I heartily agree with what has been said as to the prime 

 necessity of the different governments looking into this subject and putting our people 

 into the position to get the advice and assistance of Canadians who have been given 

 the proper training to give such advice and assistance. The situation cannot be exag- 

 gerated in that respect, and I am sure that what has been said on that subject will 

 receive the endorsation of every broad-minded Canadian and every man in the country 

 who looks forward, instead of looking merely at the present. 



Thanking you for your courtesy. 



Mr. GILLIES. Has anything been done at Queen's University towards the estab- 

 lishment of a School of Forestry ? 



Professor GOODWIN. In answer to Mr. Gillies' question I might just state the 

 situation shortly. Queen's University began to consider this subject in 1894, the session 

 of 1894-5, and a few years afterwards the School of Mining, which is affiliated with 

 Queen's University, instituted lectures on forestry and called together a convention 

 which attracted a good deal of discussion in the newspapers. Two years ago we followed 

 that up with a course of lectures which were published, and I think these lectures 

 must have reached the hands of most of the gentlemen present here to-day. We have 

 even formulated a course in forestry very similar to that which has been mentioned 

 by Professor Loudon, and we are doing everything possible to bring the subject for- 

 ward in every possible way. There are a number of our young men who are looking 

 forward to forestry as a profession. We are very much in the same position in that 

 respect as I think Professor Loudon suggested they were here in Toronto. 



Professor HUTT. As one of the younger members I would like to say a word about 

 forestry education. I have been interested in this subject longer than any of these 

 older men. For ten years past I have been teaching forestry in the Agricultural 

 College, Guelph. It was not to teach forestry I was appointed there. Ten years ago 

 not nearly so much attention was given to forestry as at the present time. Teaching 

 horticulture was the purpose for which I was appointed at Guelph, but we have finally 

 realized the importance of forestry education and begun in a small way to teach our 

 students along the lines of scientific forestry. That course in forestry has been grow- 

 ing every year, and our students are taking a very great interest in it. The course 

 has been enlarged now so that there is a special course, or at least one of our special 

 subjects, in connection with our fourth year, or degree course, where the students 

 pass an examination in forestry and get their degree in forestry. This course has been 

 growing, and students are coming there now for training in forestry. But what we 

 really need is the paying of more attention to forestry education. What we need is 

 more support. We want specialist support, not the horticulturist, the agriculturist, 

 but the forester, the specialist. In the meantime we have been creating public senti- 

 ment and our students are alive to the importance of forestry. I think it is largely 

 because of public sentiment created by our students and the Experimental Union that 

 attention has been called to the subject of farm forestry which is now looked upon as 



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