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and so on, and the farmers flocking there from every part of the county would see how 

 it is done and whether it is workable or not. I am quite willing to assist' the farmers 

 of this country to do everything they can to reforest their wood lots. Only the short- 

 sighted man, a man of greed, or a victim of need, will dispose of his trees in a haphazard 

 manner. I have seen in some trees one-half inch of growth every year and I am satisfied 

 that this work of re-foresting the wood lots can be much oetter accomplished if the trees 

 receive systematic treatment and care. 



Mr. FA I'LL. After all, how many scientifically trained foresters have we in the 

 whole country who are able to give advice on the. general question ? It seems to me, 

 sir, that so far as Canada is concerned, we are simply playing at present. The dis- 

 cussion this afternoon has brought up a number of problems that should be settled to 

 a large extent by a Department of Forestry in connection with the Legislature or 

 Government. I had the pleasure, this summer, of coming in contact with some of the 

 members of the Yale Forest School in a visit to their Summer School in Pennsylvania, 

 and there are two things that struck me very forcibly in connection with that school. 

 In the first place, the school is endowed by the head of the Bureau of Forestry, Mr. 

 Pinchot, and the work is largely controlled or influenced by the United States Govern- 

 ment or Bureau of Forestry. There are courses of lectures given in this school, and 

 no fewer than five instructors holding positions and engaged in practical questions 

 along the line of forestry. The question is, that the government and the school cannot 

 be divorced, they must work hand in hand. The question of seed is something that 

 we know very little about. We do not just know the habits of our Canadian trees in 

 seeding times, and the general habits of the trees. That is one of the first questions 

 that a Department of Forestry, I take it, would be able to investigate. Another point 

 that struck me in connection with the school was the practical lumbermen giving 

 lectures. In the case of a school here in this province, it seems to me, sir, that it 

 would be successful only or at least its success would be greatly increased if lectures 

 could be given by some men who are in the Government employ now. Say, for instance, 

 by the head of the Bureau of Forestry in Ontario, and the gentlemen who have to do 

 with the questions of fire ranging, and other practical matters. And, in addition to 

 these men, such progressive lumbermen as the ones we have listened to this afternoon. 

 What we need is scientific foresters who will be an aid to the Government in managing; 

 this large, permanent forest area which we are setting apart, and which we believe is 

 to be for the benefit of the people, and where we are to have a constant supply of wood 

 in perpetuity; 



Professor SQUAIR. I think that the people in this country are playing with 

 forestry. I am a farmer, although a member of the staff of the University of Toronto. 

 I have seven acres of wood fifty miles from here, and have been interested in reserving 

 that piece of wood, and also in extending it, and seven years ago I thought I should 

 make an effort to extend it and I bought some seed. Mr. Southworth got it for me, 

 and I got practically no results. I made inquiry of other people and they could not 

 tell me how to do these things. Now, I will admit that that is true, there is not a man 

 in this country who has the information in his head that he ought to have regarding 

 the re-foresting of the country. Now, that is the first thing to realize. You cannot 

 get that information from books. The books of this country do not provide it, and 



