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each year, and are subject to renewal. There is a fire ranging system on Government 

 lands paid for entirely by the Crown. 



In Newfoundland there is no provision for public sale. Limits are granted by 

 authority of Order in Council, at a bonus price fixed by the Governor in Council which 

 varies according to the situation of the limit, and not to be less than $2 per mile. In 

 any case notice is to be given in the Gazette for one month. There is an annual 

 ground rent of $2 per mile. Dues on timber are 50 cents per thousand in Newfound- 

 land, and in Labrador 25 cents per thousand feet b. m. Licenses may be granted for 

 fifty years or such further period as may be deemed necessary. Licensees must erect 

 a sawmill and work the limit ; sawmill to be capable of cutting 1,000 feet every 

 twenty-four hours. No person having a limit can buy logs from another licensee or 

 cut them by agreement on any other limit than his own. Pulp limits may be granted 

 by the Lieutenant-Governor in Council ; not more than 150 miles to any individual 

 or company. The license may run for 99 years or longer. There is 1 a bonus of $5 per 

 mile and ground rent of $2 per mile, and the timber is subject to 50 cents per thousand 

 feet b. m. Pulp concessionaires have to expend $20,000 in plant. All kinds of timber, 

 pulpwood, &c., must be manufactured in the colony. 



The CHAIRMAN. Gentlemen, you have heard the paper just read by Mr. White, 

 which is filled with information and is a very valuable paper. There are many points 

 in it I am sure that the members of the Association would like to have some further 

 discussion upon. I am sure Mr. White would be glad to have a full discussion on 

 the points of this paper. The matter of licensing and granting licenses to individuals 

 by the Crown for the purpose of cutting timber, and for the larger purpose of com- 

 merce is a very important thing, and we will be glad to hear any gentleman speak on 

 this subject. It is going to be followed by another paper by Mr. Hall from the province 

 of Quebec, I do not know upon what lines exactly, but after discussing this paper, 

 which I think deserves our attention for a little while. Mr. Hall will take that paper 

 up. There is one point within my own experience that I would like to ask Mr. White 

 if he remembers anything about. I can remember a time when an applicant for a 

 license was required to state whether he would build a sawmill for the purpose of 

 cutting, and unless he did that he was refused his application. 



Mr. WHITE. I did not find anything to that effect. 



The CHAIRMAN. There was something in tnat. I can remember perfectly well 

 of Orders in Councils being passed by the old Government of Canada (it may be in 

 part of the regulations) that the applicant build a sawmill to manufacture the lum- 

 ber. I have in my mind's eye an application and Order in Council passed by the 

 Government of Canada with that provision. 



Mr. WHITE. Of course, sir, you will understand that there may have been Orders 

 in Council passed that were merely local in their application which have not come 

 down to us because a great deal of the records and authorities for things that took 

 place before Confederation are some of them in Ottawa and some of them in Quebec, 

 and this may have been a minor regulation, because it is not referred to in any of the 

 broad regulations, it may have been a local regulation and we have no trace of it. 



Mr. LITTLE. Some years ago there was some difficulty between the Government 

 of Quebec and the limit holders. I remember the late Judge Church, before his ascent 

 to the Bench, was employed by the limit holders to take up the position held by them; 



