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.anieal pulp it w.ml.l be of enormous benefit, as it would enable us to utilize 

 rhiiifr that we c-annot now do anything with. I would very much like to hear an 



expression ..f opinion from some of the lumbermen present who have no doubt been 



tr.-ublrd with the same feelings that I have had in the matter. 



Mr. S TK\VAKT. I just wish to make one or two remarks upon this paper. Mr. 

 White has rrrtainl.v .^iven us a most excellent resume of the rules and regulations 

 regarding the cutting of timber in different, provinces. Now, this is something, I dare 

 say, that Mr. Southworth has noticed, and I have noticed it that applications come 

 to me from different parts of the world asking for the regulations concerning the 

 cutting of timber in Canada. They know nothing of the regulations of the different 

 provinces of the Dominion, and I just wish to say this, that I think that paper, if it 

 were put in bulletin form would be a benefit to each province of the Dominion, and 

 would be most convenient to send out in response to applications in general terms for 

 the regulations for cutting timber in Canada. To give it to the applicant in complete 

 form I had to get the regulations from British Columbia, from Ontario and from the 

 other provinces, and our own regulations. Here we have it all epitomized in one report, 

 and we should join together and have that published in bulletin form. Now there is just 

 one thing regarding British Columbia. Generally we speak of the timber regulations 

 of British Columbia, but there are two different sets of regulations applying to that 

 province. There is in British Columbia the portion along the Canadian Pacific Rail- 

 way that is under Dominion regulations. This territory, five hundred miles in length 

 and forty in width, extends all across the province along the railway. This district 

 was given, the land and timber thereon, as a contribution from the province of British 

 Columbia to the Dominion government for the building of the Canadian Pacific Rail- 

 way through there. Therefore, when you speak of the timber regulations of British 

 Columbia, you must remember that they do not apply to this railway belt, but that 

 the regulations of the Dominion, of which Mr. White spoke, do apply to this belt, the 

 same as they do over the rest of the Dominion territory. 



There is one thing that Mr. Bertram brought up here about the tenure of a 

 license. It seems to me that the Crown really, through practice, has become almost 

 in duty bound to renew these licenses, but there is a doubt about whether they will do 

 BO or not. Now, does it not operate in this way at these sales : Would not the bonus 

 often be greater than it is if parties from outside knew they would be allowed twenty 

 .years to take off that timber, instead of being subjected to not knowing whether they 

 would be allowed more than one year 



Mr. BERTRAM. The bonus is too high now. 

 Mr. STEW-ART. Very well, perhaps it is. 

 Mr. BERTRAM. !No question about it. 



Mr. STEWART. Mr. Bertram speaks of working his limit in a conservative way 

 and cutting on scientific methods, and he has spoken of those trees that will grow 

 under the shade and the difficulty of growing small pine trees under cover where there 

 nre other trees growing over that shut out the light. Every one knows that. I would 

 like to ask Mr. Bertram if he has taken any steps to cut down the maple? I find the 



