me that he could sell timber which would bring us a very large amount of money, 

 and which ought fairly in justice to other parts of the forest to be cut away, but so far 

 we have not done that. However, in a short time we will receive as much revenue 

 from these parks as will entirely wipe out all the expenditure in taking care of them, 

 and leave a balance besides. At the same time they are affording a recreation 

 ground for the people who want to go there during the summer months. I think 

 these parks are most valuable things, I am not now speaking of forest reserves, but 

 parks set apart for recreation purposes. With all due appreciation of the park in 

 Quebec I think we have in Algonquin Park in Ontario an ideal recreation ground, 

 and that until we have it so full of game that they are crowding each other out, we 

 should not allow hunters to go in. 



The CHAIRMAN. I can testify to what Mr. White says, that we have an excep- 

 tional park in the Algonquin Park. The game there is wonderful. It is overflowing. 

 Indeed the province of Quebec profits by that park for the animals cross the river into 

 that province, and it certainly has been one of the finest things for the province of 

 Ontario. I think the prohibition of firearms in that park is a very wise provision, 

 and I hope Mr. White, and the department over which he has control, will continue 

 that regulation. It is a most important one, and I can speak of that park because we 

 own timber in it, and the regulation is working admirably. The timber owner is glad 

 to see that the animals and the fish are protected in the way they are. 



Mr. BOTH. I have said I feel that the man of the gun has as much right in the 

 woods as the man of the log. I would like to modify that by saying that what I 

 meant was simply the proper regulation and protection and care of game, and the 

 proper care of game is important and necessary in the forest, and a proper part of 

 forestry. I am not a believer in the indiscriminate shotgun man. If I were, I would 

 be a renegade to my profession. 



Mr. WHITE. Of course, it is better to leave a sort of reservoir there to feed the 

 surrounding country where hunters can go to shoot from year to year. 



Mr. ROTH. By proper regulations the game alone can be made a source of great 

 pleasure, and also a truly useful part of your forest management. Dr. Schenk, of 

 the Biltmore estate, is renting the shooting privileges for an amount which I believe 

 is sufficient to protect that forest from fire. 



Mr. BELL. Is the soil withdrawn from sale ? 



Mr. HALL. Yes, it is absolutely withdrawn from sale; there is no settlement 

 within thirty-five miles of the park. 



At 12.30 noon, the meeting adjourned until two o'clock. 



