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of Ontari.. \vh.-iv the t'armors liavo cut away all the timber on their holdings and have 

 done their n.-idih..-.irli..Md. themselves and tin- o-umry -reat injury. Well, now I do 

 not want to -ay nmcli .-n that part of the subject, because the only way that that can 

 be cur. d is just by th.- in. i to adopt, and that is that the De- 



partment !' .Wrieulture shall take hold of it and that tin- fanners throughout the 

 country shall be educated as to the desirability and importance of reforesting part of 

 their farms. I have no doubt that Mr. Dryden, who is nothing if not an intelligent 

 administrator, will do all in his power to disseminate information, and by lectures 

 delivered at Farmers Institutes, &.-., 1 hope we shall get the fanners educated up to 

 the point where they will try to grow trees on part of their farms at least. 



Then Mr. Little referred to the class of timber that his father owned upon some 

 lands in western Canada and said that we had nothing to-day in either Ontario or 

 Quebec that is at all equal to what they had in those days. 



Mr. LITTLE. I beg pardon, I said this. I did not say anything about Ontario, but 

 in the province of Quebec my father in one year, when I was a boy, cut more clear 

 lumber in that section of the* country than was cut in Quebec in a year. 



Mr. WHITE. Well. I thought you applied it to Ontario. 

 Mr. LITTLE. Oh no, not at all. 



Mr. WHITE. Because I want to say that we got out last year in the province of 

 Ontario a million feet cubic of waney, board and square timber. I do not know what 

 the extent of Mr. Little's operations were, but I do not apprehend he took out a mil- 

 Kon feet of timber in any one year. This we are getting out is of fair quality and 

 sells at fifty or sixty cents a cubic foot in Quebec. And I do not want you to think" 

 that we have no square timber. I am not fighting the battles of Quebec. Somebody 

 lse will have to do that. 



Mr. LITTLE. Mr. Edwards said that for every large tree taken out ten were 

 turned. 



Mr. WHITE. We know a considerable quantity of timber has been burned in 

 Ontario, but nothing that would justify us in saying that there were ten trees burned 

 for every tree taken out. 



Mr. LITTLE. I have read your reports for years past, and I do not see that you 

 have lost much timber. 



Mr. WHITE. No, and that is just the point I was going to make. Ever since we 

 lave had an intelligent system of fire-ranging, we have asked the lumbermen and 

 rangers to report to us every fire, the cause of that fire, and how much timber was 

 damaged, and .the reports which we have had from year to year have justified us in 

 the opinion that the loss by fire, comparatively speaking, has been very small. Aii- 

 ther benefit in having rangers on these limits is this : If fire does occur, the lumber 

 foreman is there as a fireranger. He knows the limit, and if a fire occurs, he advises 

 his principal that a fire occurred on this limit, and when, and how much timber they 

 will have to get out, and so they are able to make provision for taking out damaged 



