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EFLIES. 



Honey-Extractors -Comb Honey 

 vs. Extracted 



Written Sor the Amerir^n Bee Journal 



ftnerjr 620.— 1. In making an extractor for 

 the LanBStroth frame, should the frame stand 

 on its end, or hang by the top-bar? 2. Which 

 is the most profltatile to produce, comb honey 

 at 15 cents per pound, or extracted at 10 cents 

 per pound ?— W. S. 



1. It should stand on the end. 2. 

 Extracted. — Will M. Baenum. 



1. Perhaps on the end. 2. I do not 

 know. May be extracted. — C. C. 

 Miller. 



1. Let the frames stand on their 

 ends. 2. Extracted honey, if you have 

 to ship to a market. — P. L. Viallon. 



2. Extracted, if you can dispose of 

 it at that price. — H. D. Cdtting. 



1. It should stand on its end. 2. At 

 those prices, the profits would be about 

 equal. — J. P. H. Brown. 



1. On the end, as the size is less, and 

 the extractor is cheaper. 2. For the 

 average man, extracted ; for the ex- 

 pert, comb honey. — A. J. Cook. 



1. The frame should stand on its 

 end — otherwise the extractor will be 

 too large around. 2. I think that there 

 is not much difference. — E. Secor. 



1. It should stand on the end. 2. If 

 equally easily sold at those prices at 

 wholesale, I should have little choice, 

 and should allow my taste to decide. — 

 R. L. Taylor. 



1. Let the frame stand on its end. 

 2. Extracted, by all means; for the 

 labor is less, and the yield much 

 greater. — Dadant & Son. 



1. It should stand on the end. 2. 

 It will depend something upon the 

 locality ; ordinarily there would be 

 little difference, I think. — Mrs. L. 

 Harrison. 



1. It should stand on its end. The 

 honey is more easily thrown out when 

 the frame is put in top downwards. 

 Hanging by the top-bar is the worst 

 position. 2. Extracted at 10 cents per 

 pound. — M. Mahin. 



1. The Langstroth frame should 

 stand on the end in the extractor. 2. 

 Personally I prefer to produce comb 

 honey at the same price as extracted, 

 and as long as I could get 5 cents 

 more per pound for it, I should not 

 lose any sleep figuring on it. — J., M. 

 Shuck. 



1. If you wire the frames, they 

 shouUt stand on the end. 2. Extracted 

 honcj- at 10 cents per pound, for me. 

 — J. M. Hambaugii. 



1. It should stand on the end. 2. 

 In some localities, comb honey, and in 



others, extracted. If one could be sold 

 as readily as the other, extracted 

 would be the most profitable. — A. B. 

 Mason. 



1. It should stand on its end. 2. It 

 will depend upon the season and yield, 

 and the experience of the operator, 

 and the demand for honey. With me, 

 I can do better with extracted honey 

 at 10 cents, than comb hone}' at 15 

 cents. Others can do better the other 

 way. Try each plan, and see for your- 

 self.— J. E. Pond. 



1. I do not think that it makes any 

 difference how the frame goes into the 

 extractor — at least I could never see 

 that it did. 2. If each kind sells in 

 about the same length of time in your 

 market, one would be about as profit- 

 able as the othei-. — G. M. Doolittle. 



1. I prefer the frame to stand on its 

 end, and to swing towards the bottom- 

 bar of the frame ; for the reason that 

 cells incline upwards, and the honey 

 is more easily thrown out. 2. If I 

 could sell extracted honey readily by 

 the keg or barrel, I think that I should 

 say extracted. With me, however, it 

 is very slow sale, and I prefer to pro- 

 duce comb honey, for which there is 

 usually a good demand at 15 cents or 

 more. — C. H. Dibbern. 



1. My extractor takes the frame 

 standing on its end, and I would not 

 have it otherwise. 2. It is most profit- 

 able to me to pVoduce both liquid 

 honey and honey in the comb. It 

 would depend upon the readiness of 

 the sale of the one or the other article. 

 If there could be any reason why I 

 should decide to produce all my crop 

 in one or the other form, at the prices 

 you mention, taking one year with 

 another, I would risk the honej'-extrac- 

 tor. — G. W. Demaree. 



1. There are advantages in both 

 ways. If you have plenty of material, 

 ample room in your honey-house, and 

 propose to extract a great deal of 

 hone3% then I would advise you to take 

 the combs — well, there are advantages 

 both wajs, and I do not know which I 

 would choose. 2. It all depends upon 

 the color of the honey taken from your 

 fields, the strain of bees you keep, 

 what you know about the production 

 of the different kinds of honey, and 

 your market. Usually the proper an- 

 swer would be, " Extracted honey." — 

 James Heddon. 



1. Usually it stands nn the end, and 

 it is just as well. 2. At the prices (juo- 

 ted. the profits would be about ecpial. 

 — The Editoic. 



Swarms John McKeon, Dryden, 



N. Y., on March 2, 1889, writes thus : 



A favor will be conferred if Messrs. 

 J. E. Pond, R. L. Taylor and G. W. 

 Demaree will please answer the follow- 

 ing questions : 1. Is it a violation of 

 the Sunday law of New York State, to 

 hive swarms on Sunday ? 2. Has a 

 person a legal right to go on the 

 premises of another to get a swarm oft' 

 of a tree, or other place, ,if no damage 

 is done ? 



By request, those mentioned in the 

 query, have answered as follows : 



1. No, it is not. 



2. Consent must be obtained to go 

 upon another's land for any purpose. 

 Otherwise trespass is committed. — J. 

 E. Pond. 



1. Works of " necessity and charity" 

 are expressly excepted from things for- 

 bidden to be done on Sunday. To 

 hive a swarm of bees is a necessity, as 

 much as to take out a "beast fallen 

 into a pit," and therefore is not a 

 breach of the law. 



2. No. If the swarm is his own.and 

 he has followed it, keeping it in sight, 

 he has the same right to take it that he 

 would have to follow his horse on the 

 land of another, and take it. To do 

 so in either case, would be a trespass, 

 if without license from the owner of 

 the land, express or implied. See Goft' 

 vs. Kilts, 15 Wend., N. Y., Rep. 550.— 

 R. L. Taylor. 



2. I believe that the Sunday law of 

 the State of New York is very nearly 

 like that of this State (Kentucky) — all 

 work is forbidden except "works of 

 necessity." From my earliest memory 

 the hiving of swarms of bees has been 

 regarded "work of necessity" by the 

 best men I ever knew. It is therefore 

 not a violation of law to hive swarms 

 of bees on Sunday. 



2. According to the " common law," 

 if you keep in sight of a swarm of bees 

 and they "settle" on the lands of a 

 neighbor, you may take the bees with- 

 out violating the law, if you do not 

 damage the owner of the land. But 

 if your neighbor was at enmity with 

 you, and shoulil forbid you to go on 

 his premises, j'ou then might resort to 

 law in an action for the possession of 

 the bees, by what the law books call 

 " claim and delivery," and you ought 

 to recover them. In accordance with 

 the principles of law, bees may be re- 

 moved just like other property, if they 

 can be certainly identified. — G. W. 

 Demaree. 



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