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THE AMERICAN BEE JOURNAL 



Aug. 3 1905 



the amount of bother it has been in the past ; it might as well 

 stay there, as there has been no attempt made to enforce it. 



Mr. Abbott— I am not a lawyer, but whenever there is 

 any specification regarding keeping bees a certain distance 

 from any place I pay no attention to it whatever. It cannot 

 be enforced in any State in this Union. That belongs to the 

 common principles of law that underlie all law. Every law 

 must be specific and must apply specifically to all the people 

 engaged in that industry. 



Mr. Kimmey— Suppose you lived next door to a church 

 and should insist on keeping a row of bee-hives right along 

 side of the church, don't you think there is power In the 

 municipal power of a city to control that matter? 



Mr. Moore— This matter has been threshed over at very 

 great length. The law of nuisances covers a great many of 

 these things. There is such a thing as a public and a private 

 nuisance. No man would claim that keeping a cow was a 

 nuisance, but in a city where people live close together vou 

 can keep a horse or a cow in such a way as to become a 

 nuisance. It may be a private nuisance, it may be a public 

 nuisance. The whole neighborhood is interested in having 

 it abated, in which case there is appropriate remedy. Keep- 

 ing bees or chickens is not a nuisance, but they may be kept 

 in such a way as to become an awful nuisance. Then there 

 is a remedy for the people aggrieved, at law. 



Mr. Kimmey — Don't you think there is a remedy with 

 the authorities. Has the pastor of a church got to go to law? 

 Why can't he ask that there shall be a reasonable ordinance 

 passed to control those things? 



Mr. Moore— It is not necessary to pass an ordinance. If 

 the church authorities are agreed, the church authorities as a 

 corporation can maintain an action for specific nuisance. 



Mr. Kimmey— Your argument would abolish all law. I 

 don't believe that we should take the high and lofty position 

 that we can keep bees wherever we please, regardless of 

 everybody and anybody. When we do I believe we will find 

 ourselves subject to municipal legislation under the police 

 power granted by the State of all municipal corporations. 



Mr. Moore— If the Legislature or if municipal corpora- 

 tions attempted to make laws to govern everything, pretty 

 soon they would be making laws telling you to have j'our 

 picket fence so high, to keep your next neighbor's chickens 

 out. 



Mr. Kimmey— They do that very thing right here in the 

 city of Chicago. 



Mr. Moore— There are a whole lot of things that must 

 be governed by common sense, and they have attempted to 

 make general laws to remedy specific cases of grievance. 

 There is always a law for specific grievance. 



Mr. Stanley being now ready to explain his method of 

 queen-rearing, the subject was taken up. 



STANLEY METHOD OF QUEEN-REARING. 



Mr. Stanley — I have a frame of queen-cells here. 



Dr. Miller — How do you get those queen-cells started? 



Mr. Stanley— Started as they are now? Do you -nean 

 grafted ? 



Dr. Miller— Yes. 



Mr. Stanley— They are started with royal jelly and then 

 the larva is grafted in, I made these myself. 



Mr. McCain— Are those the ordinary Doolittle cups? 



Mr. Stanley— No. This is a frame showing complete 

 cells, some of them hatched and some of them not. At this 

 stage that should be removed (indicating). 



Mr. Kimmey— What would I do with those if I Irid 

 them ? 



Mr. Stanley — If you wanted to save the queen I suppose 

 you would put it in a cage until she hatched and then you 

 could make use of it by putting it in a nucleus, the full 

 colony. 



Mr. Moore — Before these hatch you cover them with 

 some kind of a metal cover. 



Mr. Stanley— Yes. In introducing the cage it is supplied 

 with a candy to liberate the queen at any time. They are 

 kept warm with the heat of the colony in full colonies or 

 nucleus. 



Dr. Miller— Right down in the colonies? 



Mr. Stanley— Yes; they are put right between brood- 

 combs, one, two, three or four colonies. 



Dr. Miller — I wish you could all see closely the beautiful 

 workmanship of all of this. Mr. Stanley is a wonder as a 

 mechanic. His work is beautiful. 



Mr. Whitney— Do you mean to say that you can intro- 



duce a queen to a colony in one of those protectors— that is, 

 a laying queen, and the bees not kill the queen ? 



Mr. Stanley — Yes, I can introduce a virgin queen into 

 a colony and have the laying queen caged. 



Mr. Whitney — With room for the bees to go in and out 

 at pleasure? 



_ Mr. Stanley — Yes, the bees can go in and out and feed 

 their laying queen. Have your laying queen caged, and the 

 virgin queen at liberty on the combs. 



Dr. Miller — VVould it do if there were a laying queen 

 at liberty in the hive? 



Mr. Stanley — You couldn't liberate ' the virgins. You 

 might lose your virgin and you might lose your life. 



Mr. McCain — In regard to fertilizing. You have quite 

 a number of cells there. What is your method of getting 

 the queens fertilized? 



Mr. Stanley— I use a three-frame nucleus, standard size 

 frame. I have tried the small one. I have had some failure 

 and some success. 



Mr. McCain — Do you introduce the virgins one at a 

 time? 



Mr. Stanley — One at a time. 



Mr. Kannenberg — How long can you keep the queens 

 after they are hatched in those cells you have there? 



Mr. Stanley — I have kept one 34 days to see how long 

 I could keep them. 



Mr. Kannenberg — Without any honey? The bees will 

 feed them? 



Mr. Stanley— Yes. 



Mr. Wheeler — Could you introduce them after that time? 



Mr. Stanley— Yes. 



Mr. Whitney — Could you introduce that virgin queen into 

 the center of the hive where there is a laying queen, and not 

 have any of these virgin queens killed ? 



Mr. Stanley — Yes; they can be cared for in the colony 

 with the laying queen. 



Mr. Moore — They simply can't get at them. 



Mr. Stanley — Certainly. 



Mr. Moore — They are protected by the zinc. 



Mr. Whitney — The question is about the bees killing 

 them. 



Mr. Stanley — I haven't had any trouble with the bees 

 killing them. 



Mr. Wheeler — Do they ever attempt to ball them? 



Mr. Stanley — No, I have never had any trouble with 

 balling. 



Mr. Wilcox — Would it not be better, in introducing them 

 into a hive, to put them in an upper story with a queen- 

 excluding honey-board ? 



Mr. Stanley — If there are bees enough it would be just 

 as well ; all they require is to be kept warm. 



Mr. Wilcox — You supply them with food? 



Mr. Stanley — You don't need to supply them; the bees 

 feed them. 



Mr. Wilcox — The bees will not feed the virgin queen? 



Mr. Stanley — Yes, the bees feed tlie virgin queens while 

 they have a laying queen in the hive. There probably are 

 cases where they will not, but it can be brought about so 

 that they will. 



Mr. Wilcox — I have very often slipped a virgin queen in 

 the hive with a laying queen, and found her dead afterwards. 

 I thought they killed her or starved her to death. 



RE-INTRODUCING A BALLED QUEEN. 



"When a laying queen is balled in introducing, what 

 method should be adopted to introduce her again to the 

 same colony?" 



Mr. Whitney — That comes directly in line with some 

 practice I had a year ago, although I didn't ask that question. 

 I introduced the queen to a queenless colony for a young 

 lady who bought a colony of bees from me, and the next 

 day or two afterwards she wanted to see whether that queen 

 was accepted or not. She found they had eaten out the candy 

 and the queen was liberated. I told her there was a little 

 danger in opening that hive so soon, but if she cared to haye 

 me do it I would try to do so. I opened the hive and I 

 didn't find the queen — I gave them a little smoke — I was 

 afraid perliaps they had killed her. The young lady looked 

 down into the hive at the bottom and she said, "Mr. Whitney, 

 what is the matter?" I looked in and I said, "There they 

 are balling that queen as sure as you are alive." I put my 

 hand down and took that ball of bees out and shook them 

 and there that queen was and they hadn't hurt her. I re- 

 caged her and put her back and left it till the next morning, 



