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Mr. Andkusox. \\'\\n\ is tliis skilli-tl laboifr at $1/J()(); wlinf 'l-"- 

 he (lo? 



Mr. I\KKSB. The man ifully liu.s u cK'ricHl .status; Ik* is workiii;: 

 for the Assi.stant S«>(rotaiv. 



Mr. A.ni)i;k.h<»x, Hi*, i.s not a niechanical cniphjyi'f ^ 



Mr. IJkksk. No, Seven messenger hoys increased to ei^ht — that 

 refers to tlie change ju.st uhove, where one at $(3()() was jhanjreil in 

 (lesiirnation. Nine niessenwr hoys reihiced to st?ven, at Si^|s(» rarh : 

 two are dropped. 



Charwomen, three at $-t80 are (h-o|)ped: 11 <har\v<mien. $240, re- 

 (hieed from 10 — ii are dropped. 



l*a;;e ('>!) of these notes ri'fers to the list of jdaces (h"opped m the 

 oiliee of the Secretary a^'jrrefzatin": $10,(>4o. 



Mr. Buchanan. Speakin«r of this skiMed lai)orer at $1,*J(K>. now 

 tU)in^ clerical work, is it practical for the department to put a 

 skilled lahorer undei- a statutory i-oll doin*; clerical work ^ 



Mr. Kkese. I should modify that statement, i)erhaps, in this way: 

 He is not doing exclusively clerical work, but clerical work in ad<li- 

 tion to his other duties. lie has a clerical status. 



Mr. l>i ciiANAN. Is he emiiloyed as a skilled laborer or under Ids 

 status for clerical work { 



Mr. Kkese. He is employed in both ways, if I can make my.self 

 clear. He does some work as skilled laborer and incidentally cK'rical 

 lal>oi'. There is no imi)ro])riety from the civil servi<'e in <-arryin<r 

 u clerk as a skilknl laborer if the employee is willing:. 



Mr. Buchanan. No; but is there not impropriety in carrying a 

 clerk on a statutory roll as skilled laborer? 



Mr. IxHESE. No. 



Mr. Buchanan. Then you could put all skilled laborers at clerical 

 work, as I understand it. 



Mr. Anoersc^n. Not unless they had a civil-service status. 



Mr. Reese. Not unless they had civil-service status. This man 

 has. 



Mr. Buchanan. And employed as such? 



Mr. Reese. Partly as clerk and partly as skilled lalmrer. We 

 couhl not use skilled laborers as clerks uidess they had clerical status, 

 whiih he really has. 



Mr. Buchanan. Of course, he has a hi<rher .status than skilled 

 laborer? 



Mr. Reese. There are quite a few skilli'd laborers at $1.*2(X) scat- 

 tered through this l)ook. 



Mr. Buchanan. I just thoujrht that under the civil service rules 

 and reirulations that a man has to be one or the other: he can not lie 

 both. 



Mr. Reese. That is a natural and a proper (juestion. The fact is 

 that he was a skilled laborer and doinj; skilled labor work. He 

 j)a.ssed the clerical examination, as his work developed, givin<r him 

 a clerical status. 



Mr. Bi*( HANAN. But he was not employed or assigned to any duty 

 after his examination; lie just j)as.sed it and the department kept 

 him on the i-olls as skilled laliorer and put him at clerical work? 



Mr. Reksk. Mole or less clerical. Tie does not spend his whole 

 time at clerical work; he does it inciilentallv. 



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