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Ar.RKTLTlIRAL APPHorHIATlON BILL, 1024. 



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Ml". Andlkson. W liuL wt'ir you payin;: |)ri'\ iou>ly f 



Mr. Ki:k.sk. $-J< ),(»()(). 



Mr. M.\<iKK. Whv <lo vc»u liifiiiv that vmi iuhsI h'ss nionev for n*iit 

 with <;ii'iilly incrniwd rt'Utnl.s^ 



Mr. Kkksk. ( )iu' rcu.'^on I iiu'iiiiom-d jii.>i ukw. W i- li;i\c ^inun uj* 

 one liuildiii;; on K Stivi-t for w hirli we wfrc payin;: rj;^..")()(). 



Mr. lit cuANAN. That iurrtMi.'-v wa.s tak«Mi up hy iiUTtMist'd appro- 

 priation hist year — theiv was over J»J'J*2.0( m ) incrcas** in the appro[)riji- 

 iiori hi.st year, even over the estiniate. And over (he preei*<lin^ appro- 

 priati«»n it was more than that — Sijd.OfKt. 



Mr. I\KF>K. One of tlie increases estinint^d for hist year was not 

 used — that is, for tlie inotion-pietiire lihrary. 



Mr. Andik.-^ov. lint it will he (hisyear^ 



Mr. Kki:.-k. It will be this year. 



Mr. Andkk.son. So that wonhl not account f(»r any increase in the 

 appropiiation. We would like to know liow you ell'ect this reilnction 

 in the appropriation. 



Ml'. Kkksi:. The iip|)ropriation toi' this year is $181,000. That is 

 all al>sorlMMl in rentals with the e.xception of $i3.4r;ii, which we keej) 

 in reserve for enjer^ency rentals, and an estimated reserve of S.^.noo, 

 set up this year at (he ie<|uest u\' the Budget liurl'an. That last 

 S^a.OOO we can cut out, and we aie cuttin;.': it out of this ai^propiiation. 



Mr. M.ujKF.. You need less sjjace now than you have needed here- 

 tofore i 



Mr. IvKi.>i:. .No. 



Mr. M.\<;i:k. 1 can not just fijzure out myself hoM- you can j)ay these 

 •rreatly increa.sed rentals with the same amount of money. 



Mr. Kkksk. A\'e obtained increjises hist year to piovide for some 

 of these. 



Mr. Mackk. You did not pay them, though? 



Mr. lvi:i:sr.. ^Ve have occupied a lot of space in the temp<n"arv 

 l)uildin<rs durin«r the last year als'K I am afraid I am not entirely 

 awake to the m formation you M'ant to get. 



Mr. Maokk. You are |)ayinir the.se increased rentals with the pres- 

 ent api)ropriation f 



Mr. KF.r.sr:. "\Ve are ])aying them now. 



Mr. Andkkson. ^\'hat we aie trying to get at is this: You had an 

 increase in this ajjpropriation Ia.<:^t year of ^^22,000 or thereabouts, 

 all of which we absorbed by increa.sed rentals this year. For next 

 year you are proposing a <lecrease of >^."».<tO(). "\Ve would like to know 

 how you are able to make that reduction? 



Mr. r»i ciiANAN. Maybe that is the $5,000 budget reserve. 



Mr. I\KESK. That is t]ae $5,000 budget reserve item. We are cut- 

 ting that out. 



.Nir. .Vndkii.son. Then you di<l not neeil as much money last year as 

 you asked for. "^'ou have got to take one horn of this i)roi)osition 

 or the other. Hither you have asked us for more money last year 

 than you needed oi- else you have d«»ne somethin<r which makes it 

 possible foT' a rnbi"! ii.ii llii< tmic which vou did not anticipn'c ]:\<t 

 year. 



Mr. Rkksk. It is a fact that we got more money last year than we 

 estimated for when the estimates were nnide. The demand> for in- 



