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them to the unit to which they really do belong — lefivinjr the Pub- 

 lication Division to handle purely the publication work. 



Mr. Buchanan. I thoujrht we authorized the Secretary of Aofri- 

 culture id carry on these activities tj^enerally by act of Conofress, 

 and that the manner in which he or<ranized them and carried them 

 on is an administrative function, purely and simply. 



Mr. Anderson. Of course, tliat is true. Mr. Buchanan, but what 

 they are tryinjj to do here, as I understand it, is to <i:et these appro- 

 priations arran^red in such a way as to facilitate the orofanization 

 of the department, which the Secretary thinks is the most efficient. 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. Is it not true that if you make an 

 appropriation for motion i^ictures attached to the Division of Pub- 

 lication, that in effect places the motion-picture office in the Division 

 of Publications? 



Mr. Anderson. I think so. 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. What we are asking: is that that ap- 

 proi3riation read to the extension service and that a director of ex- 

 tension be created, so that we Avill have those things all together. 

 We are asking merely for the changes in the language of the bill 

 which will make that possible. It does not cost any extra money. 

 We believe it will save money. 



Mr. Magee. Without submitting things to our approval which we 

 do not know anything about — at least. I do not feel I do — why not 

 make reasonable appropriations you need and let you run this busi- 

 ness in your own way ? 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. Of course, we would be perfectly 

 willing to do that. 



Mr. Buchanan. In this reorganization do you contemplate changes 

 of men of different positions, and so on? 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. Just what do you mean by that ? 



Mr. Buchanan. Do you contemplate putting some new men in 

 there who are not now in there ? 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. Yes, sir; we contemplate securing a 

 director of extension work. 



Mr. Buchanan. Is that the only new person you contemplate se- 

 curing? 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. On the extension end of the work, it 

 is. The Secretary is also asking for an editor in chief, at a salary 

 which Avill permit him to get some person competent to do a lot of 

 things that ought to be done in connection with the department 

 bulletins. 



Mr. Buchanan, Are those two men the only two nuMi outside of 

 the service you contemiilate employing? 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. Those are the only two new posi- 

 tions Ave are asking for. 



Mr. JiTMP. And the amount of money required for these two statu- 

 tory positions, namely, the director of extension and the assistant in 

 charge of the office of editorial work, is si)ecifically offset by reduc- 

 tions Avhich are made in the related appi-opriations, so that there is 

 no total increase whatever in appropi'iations connected with this 

 proposed ivorganization. 



Mr. Buchanan. You speak of "related appropriations." Do yoii 

 mean aj)))ropriations under the division of publications? 





