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the Secretary's office and the other is the director of extension work. 

 There is no increase in money asked for. 



Mr. Buchanan. What is his salary? 



Assistant Secretary Pugsley. $5,000 for the director of extension, 

 the same as the other directors — the director of scientific work and 

 the director of reguhitory work. 



Mr. Buchanan. That is. the other directors provided for last year 

 by Con^rress come under that bill, allowino; the Secretary to employ 

 so many at not to exceed $o.500? 



Assistant Secretary Pi(;slet. Xo, sir. That was another matter 

 and did not refer to directors, but to salary increases on lump funds. 



Mr. Magee. So you wanted a lot of chan<jes. and I think that the 

 committee accjuiesced in them. It seemed to me. then, as if we were 

 netting down to some fundamental foundation on which we could 

 build. NoW' , you come along again this year and vou Avant to change 

 all that. 



Assistant Secretar}^ Pugsley. Xo, no ; we want to change none of 

 that at all. I think Ave are on the foundation with that. This is 

 something which was not taken up then, and has not been taken up 

 w4th 3^ou before. 



Mr. Magee. You have new ideas as to the director of regulatory 

 work, a director of extension work, a director of scientific work. etc. 

 Xow', you will probably come along another j^ear — you may not be 

 here, and somebody else wants something different : and so we will 

 keep on changing and shifting and transferring. It seems to me mat- 

 ters of appropriation ought to be simplified rather than being made 

 more complex all the time, and that instead of having a volume rep- 

 resenting agricultural appropriations of 300 or 400 pages, it could 

 be greatly simplified and reduced in size. 



Mr. Buchanan. I have no objection to any system that will im- 

 prove the service, and I am inclined to aid any system that will make 

 that improvement. In this reorganization, do you contemplate the 

 dismissal of any employees now in there or demotion of an}- employees 

 now there? 



GRADUAL ADOPTION OK PLAN OF REORGANIZATION. 



Mr. Jump. As I understand the details of this plan, Mr. Buchanan, 

 they do not contemplate making any great cut, l)ecaiise we have go;t 

 to go step by step. But we are doing this, and I think this will ap- 

 peal to the committee and to the Congress as an acUled reason for 

 making this change. Here, under the Secretary's office, when we 

 place these other units in operation Ave Avill have six or seven different 

 branches of the service. We propose to do something at the begin- 

 ning of the fiscal year that has not been done enough in the (iovcrn- 

 ment seiidce, and that is phice the oA'erhead Avork for all these 

 blanches in one centralized accounting office under the immediate 

 su})ervision of the Secretary. It will do the counting and j)urchas- 

 ing and all that sort of thing for all these branches. In that i-on- 

 solidation of overhead, if j^ast experience is to be oui- guide, it seems 

 quite likely that there Avill be some reduction in the foi'ce. 



For instance, evei-y time we have consoli<late(l we have found, 

 after Ave got running, as Ave did in the addressing ami dupliiating 

 that the Assistant Secretary mentioned, and economic Avoik, some 

 employees could be dispensed Avith; and undoubtedly the Secretary 



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