6 AGRICULTURAL APPROPRL\TIOX BILL, 1924. 



amon<r the States for 1923 and contractual obligations have been 

 entered into. That is not true of 1924 and 1925. but it is true of 1923. 



Mr. BucHAXAX. "Will it not be true in 1924!' "Will you not have 

 some more to charge up to the $81,000,000? 



Mr. Jimp. Yes; in 1924. 



Mr. BucHAXAX. Then ought not that also be taken into considera- 

 tion? 



Mr. Jump. Xot so far as the j)resent estimates are concerned, for 

 the reason that the $30,000,000 included in the Budget represents 

 the amount Avhich will be required to be appropriated for cash with- 

 drawals from the Treasury during the fiscal year 1924, at the present 

 rate of expenditures and without interference with thei Federal- 

 aid program indicated by the authorizations. 



Mr. BrcHAXAx. Then the economy' comes from expending a less 

 amount on the i:)ublic roads ? 



Mr. Jump. Xo, sir. The handling of the road appropriations is 

 the factor which causes the material change in the total of the esti- 

 mates over previous years, but I was not referring to it with the 

 object of making the particular point of economy. I simply Avant 

 to make clear that the estimates as submitted at this time do not 

 actually contemplate the increase of some $18,000,000 which the 

 totals apparently indicate, but. on the other hand, contemplate a 

 decrease. The gist of the whole thing, Avith reference to the matter 

 of a decrease, is that the items Avhich in previous years made up the 

 regular Agricultural bill call for approximately $900,000 less than 

 the appropriations for this year for the same purposes. 



ITEMS INCLUDED IN ESTIMATES FOK 1!124. 



Considering the Budget as a Avhole, the total of $8 1,2;") 1,0 13 recom- 

 mended for 1924 is made up in the folloAving manner: 



First, as I haA'e explained preA'iously, the items comparable to 

 those formerly included in the regular Agricultural apjn'opriation 

 act carry a total of $36,031,613. This is a net reduction of $897,560 

 below the amount carried for similar purposes in the Agricultural 

 act and related supplemental acts for the fiscal year 1923. 



Second, the group of appropriations to Avhich Ave refer as " Per- 

 manent, indefinite, and special" funds carries a total of $12.22»).(t00 

 for 1924, a reduction of $30,000 over the current year. 



Third, the committee, of course, is entirely familiar Avith the pro- 

 vision contained in the Post Office api)ropriation act of 1923. to which 

 I have referred previously, and Avhich authorizes ai)propriations for 

 Federal aid to the States in road construction of $50,000,000 for 1923, 

 $65,000,000 for 1924, and $75,000,000 for 1925. and >^6.500.000 each for 

 1924 and 1925 for forest roads. Tiie liureau of the Bu»lget has in- 

 cluded $30,000,000 Federal aid and $3,000,000 for foi-est roads in the 

 department budget for 1924. The remainder of the authoi-izations 

 for 1924 pi-esumably Avill be recommended Avhen tbe rate of cash 

 Avith(b*aAvals from the Treasury seems to retpiire it. This. 1 lielieve. 

 is the point Mr, Buchanan had in mind a moment ago. 



Mr. Andersox. Authorizations only? 



