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Mr. Buchanan. It should be determined alone on economic 

 reasons. 



Doctor Kellerman. I think that there is no question but that the 

 money that we have spent this 3'ear has been a wise expenditure and 

 that it would not represent the most economic expenditure even yet. 

 We are practically certain to secure a considerable augmentation to 

 our funds from various States and possibly private subscriptions. 



I doubt if the total that can be assembled from all of these sources 

 will be a fund that will be so large that it would weaken the organiza- 

 tion to handle it. It is always dangerous to try to develop an organi- 

 zation so very rapidly that we can not select the right kind of person- 

 nel to handle the work. We have not expanded this organization 

 too rapidly. It has never been expanded at a rate that has made it 

 necessary for us to take anybody on whom we were in the least doubt 

 of. It could be doubled easily without any risks of breaking down 

 the efhciency of the personnel, and I believe that the more rapidly 

 we get this work done, the cheaper it will be for the country. 



Mr. Buchanan. Let me ask you this: Does the Government put 

 in the actual labor in the field in digging up these barberry bushes ? 



Doctor Kellerman. No; but much of it is done by the men, 

 because they can get the support of the farmers and get them to do 

 the work more cjuickly by snowing them just how to do it in the 

 easiest and most thorough way. 



WORK PERFORMED UNDER FEDERAL AND STATE SUPERVISION. 



Mr. Buchanan. Are these barberry bushes dug under the personal 

 direction and supervision of the employees of the department ? 



Doctor Kellerman. In a very large numl)er of cases, that is the 

 case. It would be in the majority of cases, I would suppose, that 

 the bushes are dug up under either State or Federal supervision. 



Mr. Buchanan. Wlien you say State or Federal supervision, do 

 you mean to say that the State or Federal oflicers go out with the 

 farmers and take a pick and dig up these barberry bushes, or is it 

 done by the farmers and then do the farmers report back that they 

 have done it; now, is that the way it is done under tlioir supervision { 



Doctor Kellerman, No; in cases of that sort the farmer and his 

 men go out and he inspects it. 



Mr. Buchanan. That is just what I am trying to get at. 



Doctor Kellerman. And the inspector goes out with tliem and he 

 very probably does his share of the work of digging those bushes. 



Mr. Buchanan. lie could do a ^ood deal more by supervising them 

 than sticking a grubbing pt)]e in his hand. ' • 



Doctor Kelleraian. Except just showing the men how to do it. 



Mr. Buchanan. Yes; so that if you hatl an organization you could 

 do an immense amount of work in one year, with the cooperation of | 

 the farmers ? 



Doctor Kellerman. I think that we have pretty generally thatj 

 cooperation. There may be some areas where that is not the case, 

 but if so we have not had them l)r()ught very sharply to our atten- 

 tion. So far as I am aware, we have had during the past yearj 

 enthusiastic c()0])eration from individuals as well as from the Statej 

 representatives. 



