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Mr. Brc iiANAN. This vory appioiJiijitioii suys *' in cooijcratiou with 

 tlu' individuals and coinpaiiirs, " and 1 was juMt woiulcrin^ if they 

 oiii^ht not t<i [)ay for tliat service. You leiuhT them u vahiahh' 

 scrvire when N«m j;<» (here in(h\ i(hjally and sjipervise if and deinon- 

 strat*' it. I do not mean tliat in jrettin;; out any information or 

 huUetins tliey shouhl pay for that. liut when you j^o there j)er8on- 

 allv, or so'ine of your men (h>, you supervise it and you render a very 

 valuahh' servi«e to them. 1 1 hxtks hke they ou«;l)t to hear the expenses 

 of tliat tri[). 



Mr. Ca.mimiki.i.. Mr. Buchanan, it would he interestn^ to determine 

 jiLst what would he an e<|uitahlc charge in that matter. We appre- 

 ciate tliat urnler the authority you have fjiven us nn<l flu' money 

 you iiavc appropriated for the support of tliat work that a study of 

 existing coTiditions is imperative on our part, ami when we da that 

 it is more from the standpoint of the study of the condition of the 

 industrv as a whole than in respect to some particular individual. 

 Naturally, you can not j^et a knowledi^e of the condition of the 

 industry as a whole without takinj; into consi<leration the a«j«^re<>^ate 

 as it exists on the part of individuals. And in doin<; that, we have 

 heen f«)llowinj^ out what we thought were the specific pur{)oses under- 

 lyinj^ this special aj)propriation and were not disposed to consider a 

 charge. 



I daresay that the work that has ])een done is of sufhcient interest 

 to tlie industrv as a whole that the industry in most cases would he 

 willin*^ to incur the exj)enses of our service, especially after the 

 service had ])een performed and the^' appreciate the benefit of it to 

 them. 



Mr. Bi'tiiA.NAN. Would vou have any authority under the existing 

 law to make any reasonable charge ^ 



Mr. Camimjell. We do not think we have. 



Mr. BrcHANAN. Tliorc is no reason whv they should not pay a 

 little, at least, for what valuable services they receive. 



Mr. Campbell. Of coui-se, that is a matter entirely for Confess. 



Mr. \'EiTcn. Nearly all producers who need this help are small and 

 can not well afTord to bear the expense. The work is practically farm 

 demonstration work for the turpentine farmer. We have had this 



Froposition presented to us within the past two weeks, Mr. Buchanan, 

 have seen a specification that was arawn concerning the purchase 

 of rosin, and without our knowledoje of it, that stated: In ca.ses of 

 dispute concerning the grade of this rosin, it shall be submitted to 

 the Bureau of Chemistry, and the findings of the IJureau of Chemistry 

 shall be regarded as final, and the party at fault shall pay such chart^es 

 as the Bureau of Chemistry may make for that work. The tjuestion 

 with us is. Have we any authority to make such a charge ( 



Mr. Buchanan. We have that being done in some other depart- 

 ments. 



Mr. Anderson. There are several acts under which inspections are 

 made or arbitrations performed, in which one department or another 

 acts as arbitrator. 



Mr. BiCHANAN. There is some shipping act in respect to the con- 

 ilition of grain or fruit. 



I think where a private company receives services of the Govern- 

 ment they ought to be willing to pay a little part t)f the expense. 



