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certain to be a success, and we will be prouder of it than any- 

 thing else we have done, because it shows that, if the Indians can 

 do it, anybody else can do it. 



Continuing my paper, in conclusion, I want to say that in 

 our general investigations and practical demonstrations, we have 

 recognized that the State and Federal governments can render 

 the greatest service through investigations and the dissemination 

 of information and that it is the owner who should make the 

 practical application. Therefore, this chestnut problem is the 

 people's problem and especially that of the people who are owners 

 of valuable natural or cultivated growth. It seems to me that the 

 only way the successful protection of the chestnut resources of 

 the country can be brought about will be through individual and 

 co-operative action by the owners. They are the ones to be di- 

 rectly benefited, financially and otherwise. I am sure that, as a 

 rule, they are anxious to do everything they can afford to do, 

 if someone will show them how and demonstrate to them that, as 

 a business proposition, it will pay. They will then not only try 

 to protect their own timber but they will realize that there is 

 a common interest involved and will be impelled to help their 

 neighbors, their county, and their State. 



I have some photographs here which I took in 1903 in North 

 Carolina, showing the extensive dying of chestnut there. The 

 chestnut, practically dead as far as you could see in every direc- 

 tion, the white, barkless trunks appearing as ghost trees in the 

 forest. I have also a list of the insects found on chestnut, which 

 of course you do not want me to read. 



THE CHAIRMAN : Dr. Hopkins has some photographs here 

 illustrating some of the insect pests, and I am sure he will be 

 glad to show them to those who are interested, after this session 

 is over. The paper of Dr. Hopkins is open for discussion. I 

 know he will be glad to answer questions that may arise pertain- 

 ing to the relation of the insects to the chestnut bark disease, or 

 any other questions that may come up in relation thereto. 



DR. MURRILL, of New York : I would like to ask Dr. Hop- 

 kins how far these beetles which attack the chestnut have been 

 known to go from tree to tree in a forest? 



