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am trying to see what I can do. I am keeping a couple of 

 thousand hogs, and perhaps can get the place so I can raise 

 something by and by. And up there I have more trouble 

 with help than down here, because they don't want to go so 

 far away from the city. I have more trouble than I do with 

 all the help here, and I have fifteen up there and lots of times 

 I have a hundred here. 



The question of pay on the farm isn't to be considered, 

 because the more wages you have to pay on the farm, the 

 more you are going to get for your goods. That will regu- 

 late itself. Of course when pay does go up, as it has the last 

 four or five years, — mine has gone up ten dollars a month, 

 — I get more out of it, because these fellows all have the 

 money to spend to buy my goods. We don't realize it, but 

 the time I did the best was when we were paying from fifty- 

 two dollars to fifty-five dollars a month to our men. That 

 was right after the war. 



This Italian business, — they are the only help we can 

 get. The Irish used to be the best we could get, and I would 

 rather pay fifty dollars a month to an Irishman now than 

 pay an Italian thirty-five dollars. He is worth it, too, be- 

 cause he won't steal so much. Talk about burning up brush, 

 you don't have to burn it ; down our way the Italians would 

 lug it off, so you wouldn't have to bum it, as they do any 

 stuff they find lying around. They will do away with any- 

 thing they can get their hands on, and consider it theirs. 

 They haven't had any scruples that way at all, never were 

 brought up to do differently, so I suppose they can't help 

 it. I think, however, that the Italian help- will be the help 

 of the future, because they are working into our line of busi- 

 ness and on the farms. Some of the largest sales that I make 

 in seeds in a year I make to Italians. The last few years I 

 have sold some Italians as high as five to six hundred dollars 

 worth of seeds. You know that means something. They are 

 going to be the farmers of the future, a hundred years hence ; 

 when we are raising beef here, they will be the farmers to 

 do it. 



Secretary Ellsworth. Mr. Chairman, I rise to make a 

 motion, which is a very pleasant duty to perform. I wish to 



